ISIS/ISIL conflict in Syria/Iraq (No OpEd, No Politics)

Miragedriver

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The US Delta Force finish off a leader of the Islamic state in Syria

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(Defensa.com) During the night of May 15, a unit of US Special Forces were deployed in Syria to capture Abu Sayyaf, a prominent leader of the Islamic state and his wife.

The President of the United States ordered the special forces operation in Al Omar, eastern Syria, to capture Abu Sayyaf and his wife as confirmed by the Secretary of Defense Ash Carter. However, during the operation Sayyaf died. Abu Sayyaf was responsible for the Islamic State to control trade finance and oil and gas IS, which enjoyed a high position in the group.

According to US media reported, the unit used would have been the 1st Operational Detachment-Delta's Special Forces known as Delta Force. These have been deployed to a town east of Syria by a CV-22 tiltrotor US Air Force Black Hawk helicopters and the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) of the US Army. (160th SOAR).

Though little known, the presence of both the 160th SOAR as the Delta Force is not new in the area since July last year Osprey tiltrotor transported to the Delta Force unit east of Syria during a rescue operation of hostages the Islamic State, which was not successful in being transferred these. In August last year Black Hawk helicopters of this unit were used in an attempted rescue operation by US journalist James Foley in Syria. No member of the US unit was wounded in the operation although a dozen Islamic State fighters died during the same

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SampanViking

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OK Gentlemen.
Time to put the subject of last nights deleted images behind us and move on.
It does show that we all need to be careful and not post material which can be seen as crass and provocative by other members.
 

janjak desalin

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Unfortunately, for some, it is now becoming obvious, to that same some, that the sect not preferred, by that same some, is probably the one that is best suited, both organizationally and ideologically, to confront the terror that is ISIS/ISIL. They were successful in Erbil. (...)

Additionally, for those who are interested in an example of the ways in which short-sighted foreign policy can backfire, google:
THE SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN AND ITS IMPLICATIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY.
Your search will produce results including a UNGASC report that reveals that the UN intervened to prevent Iran from invading Afghanistan to fight a war against the Taliban. My recollection of this incident was that it was reported that this was done under heavy US influence. Read this document to see the context in which this action was taken and just how many drastically deleterious unintended consequences the US suffered by intervening to prevent a regional power-play by Iran. Then, ask if it's possible that acting to hinder the present Iranian regional power-play could also result in another set of unforeseen and drastically deleterious consequences.
 
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janjak desalin

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(...) Does it really make sense for US to continue their campaign against Syria while Iran supports the country?

One would think that a choice between the Assad regime and ISIS/ISIL as the lesser of two evils would be an easy one. That is, if vested politico-economic interests aren't considered.
 

Jeff Head

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I usually do not go very deep into political or philosophical discussions here.

It is not what SD is about or meant to be about.

So excuse me if I relent (I may come back in later and realize it is a mistake and delete it and the comments the discusison leading up to it) this time.

I will not go into the entire Iranian involvement in either Afghanistan or Iraq.

That is a different can of worms entirely and unintended consequences can occur either way and be equally repugnant. Unintended consequences are not something that is figured out beforehand because by nature they are...well, unintended. There is nothing to say that looking back, had the other way been the path taken, that some equally, or even worse unintended consequence may have occurred.

However, I will say something about the Syria situation which is still playing out.

This US administration's actions in Syria with regards to Assad, have made the current situation worse.

It started with the attempt to use American covert assets to help funnel arms from Libya to Syria to use against Assad...and then having them go to the terrorist organizations fighting him. Another failed attempt to try and influence things in what I believe to be a very sophomoric and dangerous manner.

And the danger proved out. That entire fiasco was what drove the Benghazi travesty that the US administration then patently tried to cover up as well.

Many of us here in the states knew this intrinsically and spoke against it...but now the actual communiques have been documented revealing it.

I am not going to say that Assad is some kind of benevolent leader with strong human rights record. He did however keep order in the country, and what Syria is experiencing now, in my estimation, is far worse than history shows us his rule had been beforehand.

And as a result of the relative stability, prior US administrations, on occasion, found ways to work with Assad for the greater regional good.

This administration has botched any hope for that happening in the future...and driven a deep wedge where it did not have to be so.

Now...I will back away from further political/ideological comments and urge everyone to get back on topic regarding the military aspects of what we see happening there.
 

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"China to sell Jordan missile-firing drones after Obama says no to helping ally"

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Miragedriver

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Islamic State seizes ancient town of Palmyra in Syria

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BEIRUT (AP) — Islamic State extremists captured the ancient Syrian town of Palmyra after government defense lines there collapsed Wednesday, a stunning triumph for the group only days after it captured the strategic city of Ramadi in Iraq.

It was unclear by nightfall how close to Palmyra's famed archaeological site the militants had advanced, activists said, adding that Syrian soldiers were seen fleeing the area.

The ruins at Palmyra are one of the world's most renowned historic sites and there were fears the extremists would destroy them as they did major archaeological sites in Iraq. The UNESCO world heritage site is famous for its 2,000-year-old towering Roman-era colonnades and other ruins and priceless artifacts. Before the war, thousands of tourists a year visited the remote desert outpost, a cherished landmark referred to by Syrians as the "Bride of the Desert.

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The fall of the town to the Islamic State group after a week of fighting was an enormous loss to the government, not only because of its cultural significance, but because it opens the way for the extremists to advance to key government-held areas, including Damascus and the Syrian coast to the south and southwest, as well as the contested eastern city of Deir el-Zour to the east.

Next to it are also important gas and oil fields in the country's central region.

It was not immediately clear how close the militants were to the ruins, which are just southwest of the town.

"I am terrified," said Maamoun Abdulkarim, Syria's director-general of antiquities and museums. "This is a PR battle for Daesh, and they will insist on scoring victory against civilization by destroying" the ancient ruins, he said, using the Arabic acronym for the group.

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The fall of Palmyra just days after Islamic State fighters seized the strategic Iraqi city of Ramadi showed the extremists' ability to advance on multiple fronts at opposite ends of a sprawling battlefield that spans the two countries — and erased any sense that recent IS losses in Tikrit and elsewhere had dealt a major blow to the militants.

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The Syrian Observatory for human rights reported that government forces collapsed in the face of IS attacks and withdrew from the town late Wednesday. Beibares Tellawi, an activist in Homs province, also confirmed IS was in control of the town.

He said the militants had reached the notorious Tadmur prison, where thousands of Syrian dissidents have been imprisoned and tortured over the years. The fate of the prisoners, believed to number around 1,000, was not immediately known.

Syrian state TV acknowledged that pro-government forces had withdrawn from Palmyra, and the IS-affiliated Aaamaq News Agency reported the town was "under the complete control of the Islamic State fighters." IS fighters had also seized control of the Jazl oil field in the Homs countryside, the Aaamaq report said.

Earlier Wednesday, Homs governor Talal Barazzi said Islamic State militants had infiltrated overnight into some districts in the northern part of Palmyra and were engaged in fierce gun battles with government forces as snipers roamed the streets. He said at least 19 people had died by early Wednesday, including seven civilians and 12 from the pro-government militia known as the National Defense Forces. It was not immediately known how many people died as fighting continued throughout the day.

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Abdulkarim said workers were able to save hundreds of statues and masterpieces from Palmyra that were transported to safe houses in Damascus. "But how do you save colonnades that weigh a ton? How do you save temples and cemeteries and, and, and?" he asked.

He appealed to the international community to declare "a red line" around Palmyra and called on the U.S.-led coalition to "at least prevent IS convoys from reaching it."

Until now, U.S.-led airstrikes in Syria have focused on areas outside Syrian government control so as not to appear to be aiding President Bashar Assad.

Syrian antiquities expert and opposition figure Amr Al-Azm noted the irony of anti-Assad activists having to call on the U.S.-led coalition to support Assad's forces in the city against the Islamic State militants.

"We are trapped in a sickening paradox where, to save the world heritage site of Palmyra we are forced to call on the international community and the coalition to attack ISIS forces in support of the Syrian regime, which is defending the city," he wrote in a Facebook posting this week.

The majority of the ruins are located in Palmyra's south, and the militants entered Wednesday from the north after seizing the state security building from government forces. But their presence has sparked concerns they would destroy the ruins as they have done with major archaeological sites in neighboring Iraq.

The Islamic State group's advance in Syria followed a major military victory in neighboring Iraq, where the militants' captured the strategic city of Ramadi, capital of the country's largest Sunni province, over the weekend.

Thousands of displaced people fleeing the violence in Ramadi and western Anbar province poured into Baghdad on Wednesday after the central government waived restrictions and granted them conditional entry.

The exodus is the latest in the aftermath of the fall of Ramadi. The Shiite-led government in Baghdad is struggling to come up with a plan to reverse the astonishing loss, pledging a counter-offensive and relying on Iranian-backed Shiite militiamen to join the battle.

Athal al-Fahdawi, an Anbar councilman, said that thousands of civilians from Ramadi who were stranded on open land for days, are now being allowed to cross a bridge spanning the Euphrates River and enter Baghdad province.

On Tuesday, Anbar officials said five of the displaced residents had died from exhaustion in the Bzebiz region, where the displaced had been forced to stay while they were kept away from Baghdad.

According to the International Organization for Migration, more than 40,000 people have been displaced from Anbar since Friday when the militants began their final push for Ramadi. In the past, people fleeing the Sunni province have been prevented from entering Baghdad due to fears that militants might mingle in with the crowds and sneak into the Iraqi capital.

Residents still left in Ramadi told The Associated Press by telephone Wednesday that Islamic State militants were urging them over loudspeakers not to be afraid and to stay in the city. However, they were not preventing those wanting to leave the city to go, the residents said, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear for their safety.

It is still unknown when the Iraqi government's expected wide-scale operation to recapture Ramadi and other cities will start. Baghdad officials and leaders of the so-called Popular Mobilization Units, Shiite militias who are fighting on the side of the Iraqi military and security forces, have repeatedly said they need time for a military buildup and reconnaissance.

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Miragedriver

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Raw footage of ISIS taking control of Ramadi from today: May 20, 2015

I don’t usually comment on these reports. However, we (collectively) need to pray for all the women that will be raped today, husbands that will be killed and children that will be sold as slaves.:(
 
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