2012 US Presidential Election discussion.

solarz

Brigadier
I always thought conservative principles were about fiscal conservatism, humble foreign policy and pragmatic approach. If you just stick with those principles, you have a very attractive platform.

That sounds like Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. :D
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
One of the main reasons why Obama got re-elected is because most Americans despite four years of Obama still blame their economic woes on Bush. And if you look at the popular vote in the elections you will see that the numbers are much closer something like 50,4% of the votes for Obama and 48,1% of the votes for Romney. With a voter turnout rate between 57 to 60%.

Aside from the presidential elections on tuesday there was also a non binding referendum in Puerto Rico about its future status. And it seems that a majority of the people there have voted to formally join the US as the 51st state. Do anyone know if this will actually happen and in what time frame ?



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It's great for Puerto Ricans and I hope they do get it. What I want to know is where and how are they going to fit 51 stars on the already crowded blue field of the US flag when PR became an official state?
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Also Asian tend to have this problem of voting EXACTLY 50/50 Democrats and Republicans.

There are always plenty of new immigrants that favor Democrats, and there are always plenty of rich Asian that like Republicans.

And Asian is too broad identity, there are Chinese, Korean, Filipinos, Japanese etc.. and they all don't like each very much, no way you get them to work together as a single political block like those Jewish voters.

Jack, for the record the racial breakdown post election is appox. 70% Asians who voted Democrat... about par with Hispanics. Blacks are over 90% for comparison sake. Basically the only demographic that voted Republicans are older white men but I don't think that is a state secret.
 

jackliu

Banned Idiot
Jack, for the record the racial breakdown post election is appox. 70% Asians who voted Democrat... about par with Hispanics. Blacks are over 90% for comparison sake. Basically the only demographic that voted Republicans are older white men but I don't think that is a state secret.

Yeah I read about that the day after the election. It was NOT always the case, Asian used to vote pretty evenly. Republicans really F up this time.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
This is how it works... Republicans see Asians as Democratic supporters. Democrats see Asians as Republican supporters. That's because Asians generally aren't politically active so the parties use that as an excuse to ignore Asians relegating them to being loyal to the other. Contrary to the romantic propaganda, they don't speak for those with no voice. They only speak for those that give them something. And Asians certainly aren't giving them the votes in large numbers for them to care afraid of not getting your vote. My own experience is immigrants more than natural US born Asians don't side with either Republicans or Democrats because they chose not to get involved which is why Asians in general are ignored.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Here's an interesting political read that my friend email to me about. So I guess not just the Republican party will be paying more attention to Asian and minority voters. That's good for a change.

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jackliu

Banned Idiot
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Even there is fat chance for this to happen, this is still bad, it is not good to put ideas like this into people's mind. As time get tougher later on, this stupid idea might became more attractive.

Petitions signed by hundreds of thousands of Americans seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the union have now been filed for all 50 states on the White House website.

The secession petition push began last week on the site's We The People section after a Slidell, La., man filed a petition on Nov. 7 to allow Louisiana to secede. Residents from other states followed suit.

As of Wednesday afternoon, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and Texas—all states that voted for former Gov. Mitt Romney—as well as Florida each had accumulated more than 25,000 signatures, the threshold needed to trigger an official response from the Obama administration. Collectively, the secession petitions now have more than 700,000 digital signatures.

Texas is in the lead with more than 99,000, but Gov. Rick Perry said on Tuesday that he does not support secession.
"Gov. Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it," a statement from the governor's office read. "But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government."
Meanwhile, residents of Austin, Texas' stubbornly liberal stronghold, have petitioned the White House to allow the city to "withdraw from the state of Texas [and] remain part of the United States."

Of course, the petitions are little more than symbolic—and nothing new. Similar petitions were filed after the 2004 and 2008 elections. And at least one petition filed on the site asks that the president sign an executive order to strip U.S. citizenship from anyone who signed a petition to secede and requests that they are "peacefully deported."
Secession, though, is not the only thing people are petitioning the White House for. Included among the 140 petitions currently displayed on the site: two seeking federal legalization of marijuana, one asking for the halt of U.S. drone strikes and one demanding a recount of the election.


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Some people took the result a lot worse than Jeff.

The re-election of President Obama last week was just too much for some conservatives to handle. Although the doomsday pronouncements of the past four years have yet to materialize, some Americans couldn't help themselves from freaking out over the news that the president will be here for one more term.
TPM has compiled the six most bizarre reactions to Obama's victory.

1. Obama's Hired, But You're Fired

Some of the nation's CEOs took their frustration out on their employees. Robert Murray, CEO of the coal company Murray Energy, responded to the election by reading a prayer to his employees and then laying off 50 of them. Papa John's pizza CEO John Schnatter, a donor to Republican loser Mitt Romney, announced that franchise owners will likely have to cut hours for employees in order to pay for the president's health care law. And Zane Tankel, a New York-based Applebee's franchisee, said he would halt plans to expand his 40-restaurant empire because the health care law would cost him too much.

2. Burying Gold On The Ranch

Over the weekend, Reuters reported on an emerging job description for a number of financial advisers throughout the country: talking their wealthiest clients off the ledge in the wake of Obama's win. John Burke, a New Jersey-based financial strategist, described some of the small business owners he works with as "inconsolable." Houston-based adviser Scott Tiras said a client wanted to turn his assets into gold before the election and bury it in multiple places on his ranch. Tiras managed to talk him out of it, but after the election the client was evidently "too upset to talk about it."

3. Riots And Racial Slurs

Election Day turned ugly by nightfall at a pair of southern universities. Hundreds of students gathered at the University of Mississippi to riot after the race was called for Obama. Some students hurled racial slurs and burned Obama campaign signs. Eventually local police got involved. There was a similar scene at Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia where threats of violence and epithets from about 40 students followed Obama's win. The chancellor at Ole Miss promised a full investigation, and the next day the more dovish segment of its student body staged a candlelight vigil in response to the election night protestors.

4. Four More Years: S.O.S

A Florida man (pictured above) said he started to display the American flag upside down the day after the election because he believes "this country is in distress." Meanwhile, a man in Texas did the same. Both are veterans, but people in their towns have responded to the gestures with anger. The presentation is never permitted under U.S. Flag Code "except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property."

5. Are You There, God? It's WND.

A post-election screed from attorney Larry Klayman was deep in the fringe, even by conservative website WorldNetDaily's standards. Under the blaring headline "GOD HAS A BIGGER PLAN!," Klayman searched for divine interpretation of a second Obama term. A Romney victory, he wrote, would have deceptively led the Republican Party to the conclusion that "a Moses had appeared to deliver us out of the Egyptian-like bondage we find ourselves in - thanks to our 'Mullah in Chief' and his growing voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others who last Tuesday cemented his destructive hold on the White House and our country."

6. Lamest Secession Attempt Ever

A GOP official in Texas last week called on his state to separate from the rest of the country and the "maggots" who helped secure a second term for Obama. Meanwhile, semi-anonymous petitions began circulating online for 19 states to secede. But two prominent conservatives, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) and RedState founder Erick Erickson, called on the wannabe secessionists to end their struggle. "We here at RedState are American citizens. We have no plans to secede from the union," Erickson wrote on the website. "If you do, good luck with that, but this is not the place for you."
 
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