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bd popeye · 07-07-2009

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Originally Posted by SteelBird

Look at the last pic. A lady sitting in the crowd was carrying a baby in her arms, and maybe was feeding him too. Was she joining the protest? Why carrying babies into such a scene? It would be great dangerous for the babies if any violence occurs.

True and I agree with you. Unfortunately there are photos on line of dead persons an some are children.

bd popeye · 07-08-2009

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Chinese security forces get into formation on the People's Square in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Wednesday, July 8, 2009. China flooded the capital of western Xinjiang province with security forces Wednesday, and President Hu Jintao cut short a visit to the G8 summit as Beijing tries to stem a tide of ethnic clashes in the wake of a riot that left at least 156 dead.

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Chinese paramilitary police officers rush to their riot gear as they prepare for duty in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009.

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Chinese paramilitary police patrol in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Wednesday, July 8, 2009. China's president cut short a G8 summit trip to rush home Wednesday after ethnic tensions soared in Xinjiang territory, and the government flooded the area with security forces in a bid to quell emotions in the wake of a massive riot that left at least 156 dead.

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Chinese riot police arrive in downtown Urumqi, in China's farwest Xinjiang region, on July 8, 2009. China poured troops into the restive city of Urumqi on July 8 in a massive show of force, but fresh unrest flared as Han Chinese and Muslim Uighurs armed themselves with makeshift weapons.

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A Chinese military helicopter drops leaflets asking people to return home as Uighurs gather upon hearing of Han Chinese attacks in a Uighur neighborhood in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009.

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Chinese paramilitary police officers form a barrier between Han and Uighur districts a day after Han Chinese mobs attacked Uighur neighborhoods in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009.

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Heavily armed Chinese police officers patrol near a mosque in a Uighur neighborhood a day after Han Chinese mob's attack in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009.

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Residents walk past paramilitary police marching on the streets of Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009. China's president cut short a G8 summit trip to rush home Wednesday after ethnic tensions soared in Xinjiang territory, and the government flooded the area with security forces in a bid to quell emotions in the wake of a massive riot that left at least 156 dead.

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Uighur residents rest near a police officer a day after Han Chinese mobs attacked an Uighur neighborhood in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009

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Armed Chinese soldiers in riot gear block a main street leading to the end of the city occupied by ethnic Uighurs in Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 8, 2009.

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Chinese soldiers in riot gear ride in trucks along a main street leading to the end of the city occupied by ethnic Uighurs in Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 8, 2009.

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Chinese soldiers wearing riot gear tell a woman to move on as they enforce a curfew in the city of Urumqi in China's Xinjiang Autonomous Region July 7, 2009.

RedMercury · 07-08-2009

PLA produced? Heh. These days the PLA doesn't have any businesses of its own. It may differ from the many helmets the PLA uses, because PAP/CAPF has its own procurement system. There are many manufacturers and models vying for contracts. If they don't make it with the PLA, they can hope for business from the PAP or export orders.

SteelBird · 07-09-2009

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Originally Posted by bd popeye

True and I agree with you. Unfortunately there are photos on line of dead persons an some are children.

In my opinion, every chaos is created by politicians for their political purpose (Oop! are we discussing politics?). As answered by Crobato in other thread, western media cover very little over this issue. I think their main purpose was to make Hu Jintao, who was in Italy to join the G8, losing his face.

I don't mean to discuss politics, but I just want to point out that the technique of using babies, children in demonstration is to get sympathy from outsiders and make police difficult to crackdown on them. I have been seeing such technique so frequently in both Cambodia and Vietnam. For example, a female pickpocket was caught and sent to police station. Soon, somebody carries a baby and pass to her, and say "Hey, take your baby. I have no time to take care of him for you." Then, the pickpocket starts to feed her baby in front of policemen. Though the police know that is her trick, but there's nothing they can do rather than releasing her.

Another case would be the beggars who carry a baby doing their "business". When they find a "target" , they tweak the baby to make him cry, and they cry too. It looks like they are in extremely difficult situation. Foreigners are always cheated in such scene; while local people give them money because they want them to go away. Hey! guys, this is child abuse! Who should you give your sympathy to?

august1 · 07-09-2009

"A Chinese military helicopter drops leaflets asking people to return home as Uighurs gather upon hearing of Han Chinese attacks in a Uighur neighborhood in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009."

"Chinese paramilitary police officers form a barrier between Han and Uighur districts a day after Han Chinese mobs attacked Uighur neighborhoods in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009."

"Heavily armed Chinese police officers patrol near a mosque in a Uighur neighborhood a day after Han Chinese mob's attack in Urumqi, China, Wednesday, July 8, 2009."

Sheesh with captions like that you'd think it was "Han Chinese mobs" that rioted caused those 156+ deaths 1000+ injuries, torching 100+ vehicles. Compare "Han Chinese mob" with "peaceful Uighur protestors" as quoted by pretty much every Western media outlet.

bd popeye · 07-10-2009

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Chinese paramilitary police practice during a break from patrol in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Friday, July 10, 2009. Boisterous crowds in this riot-hit western China city turned up at mosques despite announcements that Friday prayers were canceled due to the recent ethnic violence, forcing officials to let them in.

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Chinese riot police march pass a sculpture near a mosque before Friday prayers in Urumqi, China's farwest Xinjiang region on July 10, 2009. Mosques in the regional capital Urumqi were closed after ethnic violence in Urumqi between China's predominant Han ethnic group and Uighurs, a Muslim minority that has called Xinjiang home for thousands of years. AFP PHOTO/GOH CHAI HIN (Photo credit should read GOH CHAI HIN/AFP/Getty Images)

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Security force officers help a person on a wheelchair to move away from a sealed back ally after some Uighur protesters marched through the street in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Friday, July 10, 2009. A group of 10 police in bulletproof vests and helmets and armed with batons and stun guns blocked Uighur protesters' march within minutes, followed shortly by several dozen more police who surrounded the group and forced them to squat on the sidewalk when the group of about 40 Uighur men and women began to march.

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Residents walk past an armored carrier on duty near a mosque in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Friday, July 10, 2009.

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Chinese riot police chant patriotic songs as they march near a mosque just before Friday prayers in Urumqi, China's farwest Xinjiang region on July 10, 2009.

bd popeye · 07-11-2009

Below is the caption for the above photos. The google translation makes no sense. Someone care to translate?

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中国女子海军陆战队训练科目——丛林伏击
　　在南中国海边，有这样一群正值花季的女孩，她们身着海洋迷彩，不爱红妆爱武装。她们的平均年龄只有十八九岁，来自祖国四面八方，绝大多数都是独生女，远离父母亲人。原本是家里的乖乖女，如今个个身怀绝技、武艺超群，堪称巾帼英豪。从高空战机上跳向“敌”目标，毫不胆怯；驾舟下海潜入“敌”阵地，从不失手；棍棒出手，从不手软；爆破射击，样样精通；GPS和班用通信器材操作无所不能；做思想工作能够对症下药，是一把好手 ……她们就是海军陆战队某旅两栖侦察女兵队的“迷彩娘子军”。中国军事图片中心特约记者余黄伟徐苗波仲继军摄影报道

bd popeye · 07-11-2009

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Chinese paramilitary police sleep on an armored carrier past midnight on People's Square where hundreds of Uighers first started a protest that erupted into rioting by thousands a week ago in Urumqi, China, Sunday, July 12, 2009.

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Uigher residents walks near Chinese paramilitary police on duty along a street where more than a dozen Han Chinese were killed by a Uigher mob in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Saturday, July 11, 2009.

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Chinese paramilitary police and an armored carrier on duty in People's Square where hundreds of Uighers first started a protest that erupted into rioting by thousands in Urumqi, China, Sunday, July 12, 2009.

szbd · 07-15-2009

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Originally Posted by bd popeye

True and I agree with you. Unfortunately there are photos on line of dead persons an some are children.

Do you know they were killed by islamic terrorists?

I feel so funny that the western medias only take pictures on people not ethnic Han passing by PAPs, in a city 80% of the population are ethnic Han.

BBC etc are just a bunch of liers.

szbd · 07-15-2009

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Originally Posted by bd popeye

http://i43.tinypic.com/2cia44g.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zipoqc.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/zjwmit.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2mo5enm.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/o0yz4n.jpg

They are all police, including PAP, no PLA

szbd · 07-15-2009

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Originally Posted by SteelBird

Post 391, the last pix. I can't tell much about the pix, but it's a 14.5 HMG, isn't it? I've been wondering about this toy, since the guy sits on it, how does he rotate the gun?

use his feet

SteelBird · 07-15-2009

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Originally Posted by szbd

use his feet

Using feet to rotate the gun is slow and not effective, if the ground which the gun is sitting is sandy then it would be even worse.

Just found this pix a few days ago, wonder how old it is. If it's recent then the J-6s are still flying?

FriedRiceNSpice · 07-15-2009

Could be JJ-6 basic trainers.

bd popeye · 07-15-2009

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Originally Posted by szbd

Do you know they were killed by islamic terrorists?

Prove it.

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I feel so funny that the western medias only take pictures on people not ethnic Han passing by PAPs, in a city 80% of the population are ethnic Han.

BBC etc are just a bunch of liers(lairs)

The photographers are located around and in the Uighur neighborhood.