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    US Navy Ship Stuck on Reef in the Philippines - ABC News

    A U.S. Navy minesweeper has run aground on a reef in the Sulu Sea in the Philippines.
    The ship remains stuck on the reef. No injuries were reported among the ship’s crew of 81 and there were no indications of a fuel leak.

    A Navy statement said the USS Guardian (MCM-5) ran aground on the Tubataha Reef at 2:25 a.m. local time while transiting in the Sulu Sea. The reef is located almost 400 miles south of the Philippine capital of Manila.

    According to the statement released by the Navy’s Seventh Fleet, the Avenger-Class mine countermeasures ship was en route to its next port of call when the grounding occurred in the middle of the Sulu Sea.

    “The ship is currently stuck on the reef, approximately 80 miles east-southeast of Palawan Island,” said the statement late Wednesday. “The crew is currently working to determine the best method of safely extracting the ship.”


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    Philippines to Seek Damages for US Navy Ship Mishap

    Updated: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 11:40:25 GMT | By Agence France-Presse

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    The USS Guardian remained trapped on the Tubbataha Reef, about 130 kilometres (80 miles) southeast of the western island of Palawan, on Friday, even after most of its crew members were removed in a bid to get it refloated.

    Philippine officials said the 224-foot (68 metre) minesweeper, based in Susebo, southern Japan, was destroying corals in the Unesco World Heritage Site where entry is restricted and permits are required.

    She questioned why the ship, which had just made a port call in Subic Bay in the Philippines, was passing through Tubbataha."There was an absence of good faith here. They did not even report (the grounding.) Our rangers just discovered them there. I don't know what they wanted," she said.

    The US Navy should be liable for entering the marine reserve without a permit, damaging corals and for non-cooperation with local officers, she said, adding that the fine would depend on the extent of the damage.

    The local office of the environmental group the World Wildlife Fund also criticised the US navy, saying it was "both baffling and lamentable" that the USS Guardian would enter Tubbataha without a permit.

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    US Navy Minesweeper Runs Aground on Reef in the Philippines
    Jan 16, 2013 11:12pm

    US Navy Ship Stuck on Reef in the Philippines - ABC News

    A U.S. Navy minesweeper has run aground on a reef in the Sulu Sea in the Philippines.
    The ship remains stuck on the reef. No injuries were reported among the ship’s crew of 81 and there were no indications of a fuel leak.

    A Navy statement said the USS Guardian (MCM-5) ran aground on the Tubataha Reef at 2:25 a.m. local time while transiting in the Sulu Sea. The reef is located almost 400 miles south of the Philippine capital of Manila.


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    Well, the sun just set on some commanding officer's career...and maybe that of the navigator too.

    What were they doing there in the first place? It's well known that there are reefs and shallows there so why go through in the first place?

    Hope they can get the vessel off safely without too much damage. The Avenger class are actually not bad mine warfare vessels with good sensors and very good equipment to deal with all types of mines...tethered, moored, bottom, etc. But the US Navy has historically underfunded the Mine Warfare training budgets, maintenance budgets, and new upgrades.

    One thing a lot of people are not aware of is that the hulls of these fourteenAvenger Class vessels were constructed of
    Oak, Douglas Fir, and Cypress wood because of those particular wood's strength, flexibility and low weight. The hull is then coated with a glass-platic resin. All of this gives the vessels a very low magnetic signature.

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    Yep.. that CO of the Guardian career is toast..burnt toast in fact

    U.S. Navy Continues Operations to Free Grounded USS Guardian

    YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) -- While the U.S. Navy continues operations to free the grounded USS Guardian (MCM 5) from Tubbataha Reef, all 79 crew members were temporarily removed today and safely transferred by small boat to the nearby support vessels USNS Bowditch (T-AGS 62) and MSV C-Champion.

    "Seventh Fleet ships remain on scene and essential Guardian Sailors will continue conducting survey operations onboard the ship as needed until she is recovered," said Vice Adm. Scott Swift, U.S. 7th Fleet commander. "Several support vessels have arrived and all steps are being taken to minimize environmental effects while ensuring the crew's continued safety."

    Small boats continue to be used to transfer personnel between Guardian and Military Sealift Command ships Bowditch and C-Champion.

    After the Sasebo-based Guardian ran aground Jan. 17, initial efforts to free the ship on high tide were not successful. The ship remains stuck on the reef, approximately 80 miles east-southeast of Palawan Island.

    The Avenger-class mine countermeasures ship had just completed a port call in Subic Bay, Olongapo City, and was en route to her next port of call when the grounding occurred. The U.S. Navy is operating in coordination with the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

    The cause of the grounding is under investigation.
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    Yep.. that CO of the Guardian career is toast..burnt toast in fact
    What about due to extenuating circumstances, ie malfunction leading to loss of power? So far, no details have been revealed on cause.

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    What about due to extenuating circumstances, ie malfunction leading to loss of power? So far, no details have been revealed on cause.
    Ultimately the CO of any ship takes the responsibility for this sort of accident. these days the USN is very quick to fire commanding officers.. very quick indeed..

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    2012• Capt. Chuck Litchfield was fired June 18 as CO of the amphibious assault ship Essex, in the wake of Essex’s May 16 collision with the replenishment oiler Yukon as both ships were en route to San Diego.

    2011• Capt. Eric Merrill was fired July 15 as commanding officer of the submarine tender Emory S. Land after the ship hit a channel buoy June 21 while heading into Mina Salman, a port of Bahrain.

    2010• Cmdr. Neil Funtanilla, CO of the destroyer The Sullivans, was relieved May 18 in Manama, Bahrain, after a non-judicial hearing found he was “derelict in the performance of his duties.” The destroyer struck a buoy in the Persian Gulf in March.

    2010• Cmdr. Herman Pfaeffle was relieved as CO of the frigate John L. Hall for loss of confidence in his ability to command on June 22 after hitting a pier April 16 in Batumi, Georgia
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    What about due to extenuating circumstances, ie malfunction leading to loss of power? So far, no details have been revealed on cause.
    Does not matter...short of some kind of enemy action incapacitating him through absolutely no fault of his or his crew. Even then the CO may go down.

    The CO takes responsibility. He is responsible for what that vessel does, and what his crew does with that vessel. The training and behavior of the crew is his responsibility as it relates to the vessel and how it impacts the Navy and the country.

    So, someone may go down with the CO who was directly involved...but the Commanding Officer is going to go down (and have it on his record meaning he will not get another command) if the vessel collides with another ship, a rock, a pier, a bouy, etc., etc., or takes any other action that is harmful or embarassing to the US Navy or the United States of America.

    It is an awesome job...and it has awesome responsibilities.

    A CO has to inspire the crew...and command their respect and obedience and loyalty. Takes a very special leader..and sometimes a hard leader...but that is what it takes and if you, or the vessel, or the crew mis-steps in any major way...the CO is first in line to fall off the ladder.

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    Damaged US Warship Sinking Into Sulu Sea

    (The Philippine Star) | Updated January 19, 2013 - 1:00am

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    MANILA, Philippines - An environmental disaster looms at one of the nation’s five World Heritage Sites as a freshly refueled US Navy minesweeper has started sinking in waters around Tubbataha Reef.

    Informed sources told The STAR yesterday that the 1,300-ton, 68-meter-long USS Guardian, which ran aground on the reef at around 2 a.m. Thursday, had started taking in water and sinking, prompting 72 of the 79 crew to abandon ship. No injuries were reported.

    The seven who remained aboard, including the commanding and executive officers, would try to free the ship from the reef with minimal environmental impact, according to a statement from the US Navy’s 7th Fleet.


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    Informed sources told The STAR yesterday that the 1,300-ton, 68-meter-long USS Guardian, which ran aground on the reef at around 2 a.m. Thursday, had started taking in water and sinking, prompting 72 of the 79 crew to abandon ship. No injuries were reported.
    Wait a minute. If the ship is grounded on a reef..and she is. How is the Guardian sinking? Maybe just maybe she's taking on water.

    According to Huffington Post there's no leakage. Just reef damage.

    Here's what the Huffington Post has to say.



    USS Guardian Aground: Crew Leaves Navy Ship Stuck In Philippines

    MANILA, Philippines -- Most of the sailors on a U.S. Navy minesweeper that struck a coral reef in the Philippines left the ship Friday for safety reasons after initial efforts to free the vessel failed, the Navy said.

    The ship ran aground Thursday while in transit through the Tubbataha National Marine Park, a coral sanctuary in the Sulu Sea, 640 kilometers (400 miles) southwest of Manila. There were no injuries or oil leaks, and Philippine authorities were trying to evaluate damage to the protected coral reef, designated by UNESCO as a World Heritage Site.

    The U.S. Navy's 7th Fleet said 72 of the 79 crew of the USS Guardian were transferred to a military support vessel by small boat. A small team of personnel will remain aboard and attempt to free the ship with minimal environmental impact, the statement said. The remaining seven sailors, including the commanding and the executive officer, will also be transferred if conditions become unsafe.

    Philippine officials said the weather was choppy Friday with strong winds and rough seas.

    The World Wide Fund for Nature Philippines said that according to an initial visual inspection, the 68-meter- (74-yard-) long, 1,300-ton Guardian damaged at least 10 meters (yards) of the reef. Aerial photographs provided by the Philippine military showed the ship's bow sitting atop corals in shallow turquoise waters. The stern was floating in the deep blue waters. The Navy said the cause of the grounding, which took place around 2 a.m. Thursday, was under investigation.

    Angelique Songco, head of the government's Protected Area Management Board, said it was unclear how much of the reef was damaged. She said the government imposes a fine of about $300 per square meter (yard) of damaged coral.

    In 2005, the environmental group Greenpeace was fined almost $7,000 after its flagship struck a reef in the same area.

    Songco said that park rangers were not allowed to board the ship for inspection and were told to contact the U.S. Embassy in Manila. Their radio calls to the ship were ignored, she said. The U.S. Navy statement said that "the government of the Philippines was promptly informed of the incident and is being updated regularly."

    Philippine military spokesman Maj. Oliver Banaria said the U.S. Navy did not request assistance from the Philippines.
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    another photo.. does not look like she's sinking to me. I hope the whole situation is solved soon.

    when I get home I'll post better photos...
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    Coast Guard Deploys MARPOL Vessel in Tubbataha Reef

    PCG Sends BRP Corregidor AE-891 to Tubbataha Reef

    Friday, 18 January 2013 23:26
    MANILA- The Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) ordered the deployment of their marine environmental protection vessel to assist in the ongoing search and rescue operations on the distressed US warship that ran aground along Tubbataha Reef in Sulu Sea off Palawan.


    PCG commandant Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena on Friday ordered the dispatched of BRP-Corregidor (AE-891) together with rescue and marine environmental protection personnel onboard to render necessary assistance to the officers and crew of USS Guardian (MCM-5) that ran aground along Tubbataha Reef around 2:25 a.m. of Thursday.


    Isorena said that aside from the two rescue teams from the Coast Guard Special Operations Group (CGSOG) and another two teams from the Marine Environmental Protection Command (MEPCOM), a medical team was also dispatched to check the condition of the distressed crew members


    He added that MEPCOM personnel also brought MARPOLEX equipment such as oil spill boom, skimmer and oil dispersant chemicals to prevent any oil spill incident.

    BRP-Corregidor is expected to arrive in the area within 36-hours, sailing at the speed of 10-knots.

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    another photo.. does not look like she's sinking to me. I hope the whole situation is solved soon.

    when I get home I'll post better photos...
    Best pic yet. Look just forward of her, it looks like the reef actually breaks the surface there.

    She ran head onto that thing, with deep water on her stern. Someone was not minding the ship, or was completely unfamiliar with the charts.

    If the sea state got too bad, she could break up. But hopefully they can get a large enough, powerful enough vessel behind her to pull her off at high tide. Apparently she was unable to get off at high tide on her own power.

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    Digital map error may have caused ships grounding..If true..this may save the Guardian Co career.

    Digital Map Error May Have Led To Minesweeper Grounding


    By CHRISTOPHER P. CAVAS

    A digital chart used by the minesweeper USS Guardian to navigate Philippine waters misplaced the location of a reef by about eight nautical miles, and may have been a significant factor when the ship drove hard aground on the reef on Jan. 17.

    As of Jan. 18, U.S. Navy ships have been directed to “operate with caution” when using similar electronic charts and compare the map data with paper charts, which are considered accurate.

    The Guardian drove onto Tubbataha Reef in the Sulu Sea around 2:25 a.m. on Jan. 17 (some sources cite a date of Jan. 16, since that was the date in Washington, D.C. when the incident occurred). The reef is about 80 miles east-southeast of Palawan Island.

    The ship had been at Olongapo City in Subic Bay, and was en route to Indonesia when she struck the reef, according to the Navy.

    The Guardian is homeported at Sasebo, Japan.

    The mine countermeasures vessel, with a wooden hull sheathed in fiberglass, has been taking on water and moving on the reef, and 79 crew members were taken off the ship on Jan. 18, transferring to the Navy survey ship Bowditch and the C-Champion, a commercial vessel chartered by the Navy’s Military Sealift Command.

    The Guardian has not been abandoned, the Navy said, and the service said removal of the crew was a temporary safety measure.

    “Seventh Fleet ships remain on scene and essential Guardian sailors will continue conducting survey operations onboard the ship as needed until she is recovered,” said Vice Adm. Scott Swift, commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet, of which the Guardian is a member. “Several support vessels have arrived and all steps are being taken to minimize environmental effects while ensuring the crew’s continued safety,” Swift said in a statement issued Jan. 18.

    The ship remains threatened by the weather, according to the Navy official, and the crew has been dealing with rough, unpredictable seas coming from different directions, adding to the ship’s movement on the reef.

    A Philippine salvage tug, the Trabajador, also is on the scene and assisting, as is the Philippine Coast Guard.

    Other Navy ships are headed to assist the Guardian. The Mustin, a destroyer based in Yokosuka, Japan, is expected to arrive shortly, and the Pearl Harbor-based salvage ship Salvor is en route, although she is not expected on the scene until later next week.

    Digital Error

    The Digital Nautical Charts (DNC) used by the Guardian and most Navy ships are produced by the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), a largely secret organization headquartered in Springfield,Va.

    The DNC charts come in “general” and “coastal” versions, and, according to an NGA memo sent to the Navy on Jan. 18, the error was in the coastal DNC.

    The general DNC and hardcopy charts show the reef’s location correctly, NGA said.

    Letitia Long, the agency’s director, told the Navy that the coastal DNC charts would be corrected by Jan. 30, and advised ships not to use the Sulu Sea charts until then.

    The Navy’s head navigator took things a step further, advising in a message sent to the fleet Jan. 18 “to operate with caution when using NGA-supplied Coastal Digital Nautical Charts due to an identified error in the accuracy of charting in the Sulu Sea.”

    Rear Adm. Jonathan White, Oceanographer and Navigator of the Navy, said in the message that preliminary analysis of the error indicates it “resulted from incorrect geographic rectification of satellite imagery used to build” the coastal DNC charts.

    “NGA has found no other anomalies, but is currently conducting a comprehensive review of its source data,” White said in the message.

    He cautioned Navy ships “to compare coastal DNC charts with general DNC library charts, and not rely on [a] single source for navigation data.

    “Commanding officers,” White added, “are directed to report any anomalies immediately to NGA.”

    The agency expects to complete its review of all coastal DNC charts by Jan. 22, White noted.

    A Navy official cautioned that while the digital chart error may have contributed to the incident, an accident investigation is continuing.

    “This guidance to the fleet does not presuppose the cause of the USS Guardian grounding,” the official said Jan. 18. “The investigation will look at a number of potential contributing factors.”

    The Guardian is commanded by Lt. Cmdr. Mark Rice, who first reported to the ship in October 2011.

    The 14-ship minesweeper fleet, which generally toils in obscurity, has become the focus of major refurbishment and modernization efforts with the delay of planned replacements, renewed concerns about anti-mine capabilities, and a surge deployment to the Persian Gulf.

    Guardian is one of four ships forward-deployed to Japan. Four others are homeported at Bahrain, where four San Diego-based ships also are operating. Two others remain at San Diego, home base for the mine force.

    The ships entered service between 1987 and 1994.

    The incident has triggered worries in the Philippines about potential damage to the coral reef, which is in a Unesco World Heritage zone where entry is restricted.

    So far, no fuel leaks have been reported from the ship.
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    Digital map error may have caused ships grounding..If true..this may save the Guardian Co career.

    Digital Map Error May Have Led To Minesweeper Grounding
    IMHO, just shows the dangers or relying entirely on "digital" data. Someone should have been comparing the digital Goddess to the actual charts and making sure the watch was aware and to be on guard too.

    I have always been leary of placing too much faith in purely digital navigation when we have old, reliable charts and good Mk-80 eyeballs to augment it.

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    better check the navigation systems again make sure they were not products of APPLE.
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