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THIS IS A STUCTURE AND OVERVIEW OF THE NEW IRAQI DEFENCE FORCES THIS FORCE IS COMPRISED OF THE ARMY AND MINISITRY OF INTERIOR.
1. IRAQI ARMY TROOP NUMBERS 60,000+
Iraqi Army soldiers negotiate a standard eight-weeks of basic training including basic soldiering skills instruction in weapons marksmanship, individual tactics, physical training, drill and ceremony, and soldier discipline.
Units negotiate advanced courses in Infantry tactics, heavy weapons, land navigation, and other operational training both before and after joining units in the field. In addition, training courses focus on Iraqi noncommissioned officers, while officers receive relevant combined arms education in the new Staff College, formed with NATO advice and support.
The Iraqi Army will ultimately be comprised of 113 combat battalions: 91 Infantry battalions, 12 special Iraqi Intervention Force battalions, five mechanized Infantry battalions, four tank battalions, and one special-duty security battalion. Nine Motor Transportation Regiments, three mechanized combat service support battalions, and 10 base support units will sustain the Iraqi Army forces.
The bulk of the force has been in the fight since prior to the 30 January 2005 elections, with the remainder of the units coming on-line through 2005 and into 2006
2.IRAQI ARMY SUB-UNIT- THE IRAQI INTERVENTION FORCE. TROOPS 5,000
The Iraqi Intervention Force (IIF) is the highly-trained counter-insurgency element of the Iraqi Army. It is trained and equipped for rapid movement to trouble spots around the country, and has been so employed since its activation in 2004.
Comprised of 12 battalions, organized into four brigades, the 1 st Iraqi Army Division (IIF) soldiers negotiate the standard eight-week basic training all Iraqi soldiers complete. After basic graduation, IIF battalions spend several months in intensive “military operations in urban terrain” follow-on training – otherwise know as “MOUT” training. In this period, Iraqi soldiers work through instruction in the art of street fighting and building-clearing operations typical to anti-insurgent operations in cities and towns. They also learn how to carry out raid missions, process detainees in a disciplined and human manner, and work among the population to support national goals.
The skilled IIF units work in close coordination with other Iraqi Army and Coalition forces. The 1 st Iraqi Army Division (IIF) has been in the fight since mid-2004
3.IRAQI SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE. 1,000
The Iraqi Special Operations Force, Iraqi Armed Forces’ high-end strike force resembling U.S. Special Operations Forces units, continues training and conducting operations in Iraq with Coalition force assistance.
The ISOF consists of two elite battalions: the Commando Battalion (a Ranger-type strike force) and the Iraqi Counterterrorism Battalion (a trained hostage rescue and raiding force). The ISOF has been involved in many successful and distinct operations fighting terrorists throughout the country. In the coming months, the ISOF will add a third battalion focused on combat service support. Tough and realistic training is conducted at an undisclosed location.
Selection for the ISOF begins in the Iraqi Army units already operating in the country, much like the pattern in many Coalition country Special Operations Forces. Outstanding recruits must meet high standards in the vetting process, including exhaustive background checks. They undergo difficult skill evaluations, along with literacy, psychological, and physical tests. The candidates participate in and execute various team-building and physical events designed to select the best of the best. This challenging selection process runs roughly 10 to 14 days.
The ISOF undergo intensive training in physical fitness, land navigation, small-unit tactics, live-fire, unconventional warfare operations, direct action operations, airmobile operations, counterterrorism, survival, evasion, resistance, and escape exercises. The ISOF units are Iraq’s unconventional warfare experts, possessing a broad range of operational skills.
The forces formed based on a conversation between the Iraqi Prime Minister and Multi-National Force-Iraq senior leaders. The Iraqi leadership understood that the defense of Iraq demanded these unique capabilities. With the ISOF, the Iraqis can now take the fight to the terrorists day and night, with highly effective, targeted direction action missions
IRAQI MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR OVERVIEW. THE MOI CONTAINS MORE THAN 100,000 POLICE OFFICERS AND SPECIAL TROOPS BELOW IS THE SUB UNITS THAT ARE USED FOR COMBAT OPERATIONS
1. 8TH MECHANIZED POLICE BRIGADE. TROOPS 1,500
The 8th Mechanized Police Brigade (MPB) is a paramilitary, counterinsurgency Iraqi police unit that will deploy to high risk areas using light armored personnel carriers. The MPB will comprise three battalions.
The MPB can deploy as a company, battalion or even a brigade-level force. The brigade will be stationed in Central Iraq.
The Russian made personnel carrier, known as “BTRs,” will be used to transport Iraqi Security Forces across Iraq. With a three man crew, each carrier is capable of transporting up to 10 officers. The BTR has twin 23mm cannons and a 7.62 machinegun.
The MPB can serve as outer cordon security for military and other strike missions. The BTRs will provide the members of the 8th MPB safe transport to high risk areas with lethal fire power capability.
2. EMERGENCY RESPONSE UNIT. NOTE- THESE ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST A VERY GOOD UNIT
An elite 270-man team trained to respond to national-level law enforcement emergencies. Team members undergo a robust eight-week specialized training course spawned from the current wave of anti-Iraqi forces actions.
The mission of the emergency response unit is to provide a national, high-end, rapid-response law enforcement tactical unit responsible for high-risk search, arrest, hostage- rescue and crisis response operations.
The $64.5 million effort is part of a larger mission to create a nation-level law enforcement investigative and special operations capability within the Iraqi Ministry of Interior to counter terrorism and large-scale civil disobedience and insurgencies throughout Iraq.
The capability will eventually include a Counterterrorism Investigative Unit and Special Operations Unit. Volunteers for the force must first complete the standard eight-week basic training course or three-week transition integration program course for prior service officers before entering the specialized emergency response unit training modeled after the U.S. State Department's Anti-Terrorism Assistance and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms’ training programs.
Of the total force, 235 eligible candidates received rigorous instruction based on the Anti-Terrorism Assistance Crisis Response Team training program while the balance of 35 recruits are part of the Special Operations Explosive Ordinance Team, based on the State Department's Anti-Terrorism Assistance Explosive Incident Countermeasures training course.
Team members receive instruction on terrorist incidents, kidnappings, hostage negotiations, explosive ordnance, high-risk searches, high-risk assets, weapons of mass destruction, and other national-level law enforcement emergencies.
Officers also have an opportunity to receive supplementary training in hostage negotiation, emergency medical procedures, and counterterrorism task force coordination.
The emergency response unit is the predominant force for national-level incidents calling for a DELTA/SWAT capability and will only be used in extreme situations by local and national authorities
3. SPECIAL POLICE COMMANDOS "NEW REPUBLICAN GUARD" TROOPS 4,000
The Special Police Commando Battalions represent the Iraqi Ministry of Interior’s strike-force capability.
The commandos – ultimately to be comprised of six full battalions – are highly vetted Iraqi officers and rank-and-file servicemen largely made up of prior service Special Forces professionals and other skilled servicemen with specialty unit experience. All members of the unit are chosen based on loyalty to Iraq and its new democratic model.
The unit focuses primarily on building raid operations, counter-terrorist missions including anti-airplane hijacker, kidnapping and other similar missions.
The force resembles more a paramilitary army-type force complete with heavy weapons, rocket-propelled grenades, AK-47 assault rifles, mortars, and 9mm Glock pistols.
The commando battalions give the MOI a high-end strike force capability similar to Special Forces units and was quickly stood up to capitalize on previously existing skill sets in Iraq
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Depends how good the Iraqis are in battle. The Iraqi Army is riddled with moles and spies working with the insurgents plus a lot of them are pretty undertrained and some officers are corrupt. It will take much time and training to fully prepare these guys to take on an enemy like the Iraqi insurgents.
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Yes Crazy, I agree the Iraqi armed forces have a long ways to go before they are truly a professional fighting force. maybe another 2-5 years to see marked improvement. I think you may also see some serious set backs in the development of this force due to a highly motivated insurgent/terrorist force. I also do not rule out a total defeat of the exisiting force through certain senerios.
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I think the Iraqi government would love to utilize their special forces which are currently being trained by the US and have seen some action against inurgents. I think the US should develop an Iraqi para-military group, under the control of the Iraqi government made up of ex-Iraqi soldiers or Republican Guard. Some guy was saying that on Fox&Friends a while ago.Originally Posted by utelore
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Underground, they tried that about a year ago with a unit in al anbar and many of its troops went back to the insurgents/terrorists or helped the insurgents/terrorists. I also believe its commanding officer was killed. He was a former republican guard brigade commander. Many of the current troops in the army and MOI are former Iraqi troops that were with the regular army.
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Darth, the last reports that I have heard is around 80+ have been a complete loss. Most of the ones that were a total kill and shipped back to the states were hit with massive roadside bombs-IE aircraft bombs and sea mines. Most of the Abrams in operation in Iraq have been hit with a RPG at one time or another. As far as ATGW there were reports that Kornet and others were used with some success resulting in maybe a dozen temp mission kills at the start of the war. But again most of the problems are coming from massive IED.......cheers ute. oh yea....snipers are starting to cause real problems by killing the tank commanders and the loader when they are exposed unbuttoned at least 2 crewman this month alone have been killed this way
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Missing post was it deleated?or something mods please help the one asking Utelore about M1 losses in Iraq
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Digging out a really old thread that becomes current again I believe. With the US combat mission in Iraq ending in a few days (31 Aug) iraqi security forces will now be fully responsible for security, while around 50.000 US support troops remain in the country for training mainly.
Although I assume some SF troops will stay there for some time to go after insurgents if they need to.
In case Utelore is still around (I think I saw him lately here), is the force structure described in post #1 still accurate, or are there significant changes already?
Anyway, with iraqis taking over, insurgents have launched a wave of attacks on those security forces lately, probably to shatter their moral and the populations belief in their ability to guarantee safety. I guess in the next few month we will see if they manage to slowly, but steadily, stabilize their country, or if it further destabilizes and eventually brakes apart.
Months after the elections, their politicains are still unable to form a so much needed strong government that could provide a stailizing factor. As of now, many groups in Iraq are trying to provide for their own safty, it seems. Not trusting or relying on the central government.http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLDE67P07Z
Gunmen kill 6 in raid on Iraq anti-al Qaeda militia
Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:53am EDT
BAGHDAD, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Gunmen killed six people on Thursday in a raid on a government-backed Sunni militia north of Baghdad, as suspected insurgents continued to challenge Iraqi security forces while U.S. troops pull back, officials said. [...]
The attacks occurred a day after suspected insurgents launched a nationwide assault against police, killing 62 people in suicide bombings, car bomb attacks and shootings.
The assault took place ahead of the Aug. 31 end to the 7-1/2 year U.S. combat mission launched by former President George W. Bush in Iraq. ...
Another aspect of the Iraqi campaign now coming to the surface is that in the region Iran probably has gained influence. With Saddam Hussain, a big counterweight to the Mullahs has vanished, and the shiite majority in Iraq seems to actually allaign to a certain extent to Iran. At least iraqi leaders don't seem to have any problems with their eastern neighbours.
On the other hand, US VP Biden lately said Iran's influence in the country is way overstated. Again, I guess the coming month after the US finishes it's combat ops might show what will happen there.
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What I am worried abt is the loyalty of these Iraq troops. If they turn over and join al Qaeda. It will be disaster... In fact, I believe some Al Qaeda member might have join Iraq armed forces and wait to strike when time is riped.
Just like what it happen in Afganistan. British Troops killed by Afganistan soldier who in fact is Taliban spy.
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I guess loyalty of these troops is indeed a big factor. And while I think it's quite likely that there's Qaida fighters within their ranks, I believe the bigger part of those troops are actually loyal to their respective tribes / families / neighbourhoods and not really al-Qaida, but not the government, either.
I think Iraqis are actually quite sick of those foreign fighters using their country as a battle field, wich is a reason I think why the local anti-Qaida militias are so succesfull. But then again, these militias are also quite distrustfull of each other and the central government, after all that sectarian violance. This is why I believe there's still the prospect of an iraqi breackup if the people can't find together.
The government wants to consolidate it's power, wich it has to do to a certain degree. That means to dissolve those local militias and bring them into the armed forces. But now we're back to the militias distrust of the central government.
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Looking at Vietnam... it took around 12hours (or was it more, can't remember) for it to collapse once US left. I am wondering if it will happen to Iraq too. When the US exited the country fully... will Iraq collapsed too and insurgent forces will took over the government.
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Vietnam was a North vs South scenario. There is not single faction with enough power to take over in Iraq. My guess is that the country will fall into lawlessness much like Somalia.
Pirates of the Mediterranean?
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More like the Pirates of the Persian Gulf but yes, it will serve as a breeding ground for Islamic Extremisms for decades to come. Saddam, despite being a tyrant, has modernized Iraq to a certain degree (particularly in Women's rights).
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Iraq offered new F-16s with older missiles
Looks like The US isn't willing to let the new Iraqi government have up to date equipment. I mean seriously, Sparrows!?Iraq offered new F-16s with older missiles
By Stephen Trimble
ligIraq could receive 18 Lockheed Martin F-16s worth up to $4.2 billion and equipped with previous generation missiles and radar, according to the US government.
The Defense Security Cooperation Agency defined the configuration of an F-16IQ cleared for export to Iraq in a news release posted on 24 September.
DSCA says that Iraq has a asked for a "possible sale" of F-16s, although a final decision has not been made.
The US government is offering Iraq a model of the F-16 that would not include latest-generation missiles, such as the Raytheon AIM-120D AMRAAM and AIM-9X Sidewinder, nor active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar.
Instead, Iraq would be offered the AIM-9L/M-8/9 Sidewinder short-range missile, Raytheon AIM-7M-F1/H Sparrow medium-range missile and the Raytheon AGM-65D/G/H/K Maverick air to ground missile.
The US also would allow Northrop Grumman to supply the mechanically-scanned APG-68(V)9 radar.
The F-16s also would come with an array of electronic warfare, reconnaissance and targeting systems. The jets also could be powered by either Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 or General Electric F110-GE-129 engines.
Lockheed has been working to sell more F-16s to keep the fighter in production long enough to win a possible order by India for up to 126 fighters. The F-16 is one six fighters in contention for the Indian contract.
In August, Oman also requested a possible sale of 18 Lockheed F-16 Block 50/52s in a deal worth up to $3.5 billion.
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While there isn't a single faction strong enough to take over the entire country, the country is already roughly divided geographically into four types of areas based on dominance by ethnic/sectarian group: Shiite, Sunni, Kurdish, and mixed.
Most likely the different military and para-military organizations will be used by the different factions within Iraq to balance each other out in a microcosm of the region's balance.
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