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Golly sez...
Man oh man..Bum info. What a shock. So does anyone one know the real information?

Hey Golly do you think that pic is real and not "PS"???

I think it's "PSed" Check out the shadow. It's to perfect and the rest of the aircraft is fuzzy. The tailpipe may seem to be to high off the ground. It also appears to be angeled odly as though pasted on that pic. Just my opinion..I could be wrong.

The bottom line is that I do believe that Iran has this aircraft but I just can't find any correct info on it.

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Gollevainen

It could be photoshopped, tough i'm not 100% sure. The proplem with these Iraninan projects is that the information is really confusing and sometimes bit contradicting too...

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hellboy

It isn't PS I'm sure because I saw its test flight video (this picture captured from that video and its poor quality is because of it) and also there is another pictures with high details if I found them I Will post them here.

hellboy

Look at its wing I think it made of composite material

ahho

i am no expert at this, but how can you tell if it is made of composite.

also i am just wondering, wouldn't the nozzle too close together to employ 3d thrust???

hellboy

First of all compare shiny surface of the wing with it's beside fuselage with lot of screws!
And also saeqeh is under development in Owj industries which has a good experience with composite materials by developing "Tazarv" fully composite advanced training jet.

DPRKPTboat

Look at the nose on the trainer plane - it looks like an enlargened version of the F-4 Phantom's nose, with a smaller and stockier body. I expect most of Iran's indigenous aircraft are derived from U.S. hardware - thats why they look so modern.

planeman

Looking at the nose of the Tazarv doesn't cry out F-4 to me at all. The Tazarv is all-new design with a completely unique look about it.

Indianfighter

Iran never ceases to impress with its resilience and innovation by putting 2 and 2 together to make a new aircraft.

MIGleader

I question your wording. No aircraft is 100% composite, and the basic airframe is usally aluminum, titanium or another metal. Even the latest fighters using composites only use a single digit percentage of composites.

ahho

probably he doesn't mean 100%, but maybe say to the modern standard

planeman

Scaled composites in USA have flown a number of "all-composite" aircraft and the wings of the X-29 were all-composite(?).

hellboy

Exactly what I mean!

Gollevainen

Golly is back so cut out the oneliners...

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PakTopGun

I woudnt brush off Iran's ingenuity either.. They have a lot of resources, have a relatively high literacy rate (above 80%) and many trained personnel. They're also sitting on the 2nd or 3rd largest reserves of oil/gas in the world. Now they have recovered from the long Iran-Iraq war which was fought while being under tough sanctions and they have money to invest. Also, they have linked up with other countries willing to work(Russia, China, France+rest of EU) with them or suffering similar sanctions(Pakistan). I think we'll be seeing more surprising designs coming out of Iran in the near future!