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planeman

Source: http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/44268/...ile-power.html

Missile is called Sagarika, has 1000km range. Video says cruise missile but other reports seem to think ballistic. Not clear how it relates to Brahmos.

Says INS will have a nuclear sub in 2008.

Roger604

Regarding the two separate claims:

1) Submarine launched nuclear capable cruise missile

According to Russian news ITAR-TASS, Brahmos will "soon" be tested by India on a Kilo submarine.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...0706291222.htm

It's known that Brahmos is just a Yakhont with Indian markings on it. And the Yakhont is the export version of the Shipwreck, which has a 1,000 km range. But Brahmos is not supposed to exceed 300 km range under missile proliferation treaties.

I've also read reports India is working on a submarine launched version of Agni-III called Agni-3S, as well as a MIRV version called Agni-3+. But Agni-III is still in development, having been tested successfully for the first time recently, so SLBM is still a long way off.

2) Indigenous nuclear submarine to be launched next year

Huh? This thing came out of nowhere. Is this another great Indian exaggeration... like the LCA Tejas (best light fighter in the world), Arjun (best tank in the world) or Avatar (hypersonic scramjet vehicle)?

It's been speculated that Indian sailors have been training on Akula nuclear attack submarines, because Russian is expected to sell an Akula to India. This would explain why there have been no reports of either the development or the construction of this "indigenous" Indian nuclear submarine. The mysterious sub is just the Akula... perhaps with an Indian name... that's set for delivery by 2008.


The implication is interesting... this could really hurt US-Indian relations. The US seeks to build up India's military, but not to the point where it can threaten America with submarine nukes (especially if both the missile and the sub is Russian in origin).

yehe

Wonder how the Aegis system US is about to sell to IN will work with Russian subs and other naval ships and systems, hard to link them up, also, hard to upgrade the AEGIS with new russian or Indian made weapons like the Brahmos. Also anyone know exactly what kinda of AEGIS is the US selling? I heard its the same system from Ticon.

sumdud

I hope this is a media foul up of some sort. I have hear rumours about Indian reactors and so far it is bad news.

And boomers on the first move? No SSN escorts first? I really really hope this is a joke.
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US selling Aegis? to India? Since when were they this intimate?

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FuManChu

I think the project itself is real, unless a few Indian news sources have been copying an incorrect report. Apparently it was a top-secret project and its progress was not made public, which is why this is such a surprise.

A knockout punch from sea

I think what will happen is that the ATV (India's first indigenously made SSN) will fire them like torpedo-tube launched Tomohawks, though it is possible the boat was designed with a VLS (doubtless we shall find out eventually).

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nero

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u r absolutely right .

infact this may turn out to be the hoax of the new millenium.


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FuManChu

Actually, he is wrong on the Indian nuclear programme. According to more recent articles, the Russians have helped them with problems they had over miniaturising a reactor for submarine use. Of course no one will know anything for sure until the ATV is commissioned.

On the first post, I think the 2008 date is the launch of the ATV, though some reports suggest towards the end of this year.

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Schumacher

Since US decided India might be useful as its ally in its rivalry with China.

Colt .45

yeh but India hates Pakistain, and the U.S. sells weapons to both India and Pakistain, its all like one big game.

bd popeye

I see that this thread is headed to the "dark side".

Thread closed.

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