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Which Nations produce the best trained pilots in the world?

My pick:

1. Isreal
2. United States
3. Pakistan
4. United Kingdom
5. Germany

rommel

Hum... Best trained pilot !

1-Canada
2-USA
3-UK
4-Germany
5-Pakistan

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tphuang

1. Israel
2. Canada
3. USA
4. UK
5. Pakistan

BrotherofSnake

1. Israel
2. USA
3. UK
4. Canada
5. Germany

Issa

1. IRAN
2. Israel
3. U.S.
4. Pakistan
5. Germany

walter

just wondering, but why do so many think Canadian pilots are some of the best trained?

rommel

Read that, it's the post about Canadian Pilot I posted before

The Best Pilots in the World

Canadian pilot training is world-renowned. Air Forces from around the globe send their student pilots here to train at the NATO Flying Training in Canada (NFTC) program. To date, Canada has sold more than $1-billion in training to pilots from Britain, Italy, Denmark, Singapore and Hungary since the inception of NFTC training in 1999. Using the most advanced and effective integrated pilot training system at the most modern training facilities currently available in the world, Canada has become the benchmark in military pilot training.

“We have the leading edge, most advanced technology for pilot training in the world. It is well ahead of everyone, Britain, the United States, everyone. It is the model for other countries so we are very proud of that.” – Lieutenant-Colonel Brian Houlgate, Director, Canadian Aerospace Training Project.

CHRONOLOGY OF TRAINING
Ground school to Wings: approximately 2 years Common Training
This training is taken by all pilot trainees:

* Basic Officer Training
* Second Language Training
* Phase I Primary Flying Training on the Slingsby Firefly, Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
* Aeromedical Training
* Basic Land and Sea Survival Training
* Phase II Basic Flying Training on the Harvard II, 15 Wing Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan

Helicopter Training
This training is taken by pilot trainees selected to fly helicopters:

* Phase III Helicopter Training on the Jet Ranger in Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
* Pilot Wings awarded
* Operational Training Course for specific helicopter

Multi-Engine Training
This training is taken by pilot trainees selected to fly multi-engine aircraft:

* Phase III Multi-Engine Training on the Beech King-Air in Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
* Pilot Wings awarded
* Operational Training Unit for specific aircraft

Jet Training
This training is taken by pilot trainees selected to fly jets (fighters or trainers):

* Phase III Jet Training on the Harvard II and the Hawk at 15 Wing Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
* Pilot Wings awarded
* Phase IV Fighter Lead-In Training on the Hawk in 4 Wing Cold Lake (for CF-18 pilots)
* CF-18 Course (for CF-18 pilots)

It’s no wonder why it costs an average of $2.54 million to train a Canadian Forces pilot.

Money well spent? Absolutely!

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No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of men and women.

"Rowing is the only sport that started as a punishment"

walter

okay, most of that training looks like flight training, though, not actual combat training. I am sure Canadian pilots are extremely competent, but how much actual combat experience do they have. Combat experience lays the groundwork for combat training, which is why I think UK, US, and Israel would take the top three spots, in no particular order.

rommel

well, Canadian Forces Pilot got 5700 of flight hour (2700 of Combat air patrol) during the 91 Desert Storm with 24 CF-18. In 1999, 18 CF-18 did 678 combat (2577 combat hour) sorties in Kosovo, we conducted more than the 10% of the NATO strike sorties during Operation Allied Force. During Operation Mirador (August-November 1997) in Bosnia, 6 CF-18 conducted 261 Air Patrol Combat mission to cover NATO ground's troops and 77 training mission.

For combat exercise, there's a lot each year, of exemple, Mapleflag, Clean Hunter, Bold Avenger and lot more. We got permanence a contingent that is flying under the command of the NORAD

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No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of men and women.

"Rowing is the only sport that started as a punishment"

DPRKUnderground

I bet most of you don't know Pakistan had a total of 5 kills w/out any losses in 2 of the Arab-Israeli Wars against Israel. 2 of them were in Hawker Hunters! Just check out www.pakdef.info! So here are my rankings!

1. Pakistan
2. Israel
3. US/India
5. UK

Issa

The IRIAF had a kill ratio of 5:1 during the Imposed War, and this was when we faced an arms embargo and an international Ba'thist tilt.

BrotherofSnake

You guys had our F-14s.

FriedRiceNSpice

Wow. Now you consider F-14s to be "ours."
But F-14s do suck, and why is Iran in the top 5? And why is Pakistan in the top 5? Both Pakistan and Iran have no place being in the top 5, let alone being #1.

Issa

Well, seeing that if not for the Shah's funding, the Tomcat project would have been dumped and Grumman would have gone bankrupt, your claim to the F-14 must be contested.

Also, your guys sabotaged many of them after the revolution, yet, we are still the only country to score a kill with the Phoenix missile.

BrotherofSnake

American Tomcat pilots have fired Phoenix missiles at fleeing Iraqi aircraft. The Iraqis ended up burning out their engines and ejecting trying to out-run the phoenix.