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Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

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    Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    This thread is about the Hobart class AEGIS DDG class currently being built by Australia. They are being built to provide world-class anti-air, ainti-submarine, and anti-surface war capabilities for the RAN, and particularly to escort the Australian Canberra Class LPH vessels also currently underconstruction.

    Here are the specs and description of the vessel from my AEGIS Vessels of the World web site:

    Quote Originally Posted by AEGIS VESSELS OF THE WORLD
    Hobart Class AEGIS Destroyer
    July 6, 2012

    Designation: DDG
    Length: 483 ft (147 m)
    Beam: 61 ft (18.6 m)
    Draft: 18 ft (5.2 m0
    Full Load Displacement: 7,000 tons
    Propulsion (CODOG):
    - 2 x GE 7LM2500-SA-MLG38 turbines
    - 2 x Cat Bravo 16V engines
    - 2 x shafts
    Performance:
    - Top Speed: 28+ knots
    - Range: 5,000+ nautical miles at 18 knots
    Crew: 202 (includes 16 airwing)
    Accommodation: 234
    Sensors/Electronics:
    - Aegis Weapon System Baseline 7.1
    - AN/SPY-1D(V) Phased Array Radar
    - AN/SPQ-9B X-band pulse doppler horizon search radar
    - Link 11 and 16 tactical uplinks
    - ASTIS MCE SATCOM
    - Inmarsat
    - Raytheon Mark 99 fire-control System
    - 2500 electro-optical director
    - VAMPIR IR search and track system
    - Toplite stabilised target acquisition sights
    - 2 x CW radars for missile direction
    - 2 x L-3 X-band navigation radars
    Counter Measures (ECM):
    - EDO Recon & Surveillance Systems ES-3701 ESM radar
    - MBS-567A communications ESM system
    - Avalon multipurpose digital receiver
    - Jenkins Defence Systems low-band receiver
    - 4 x NULKA Active Missile Decoy launchers
    - 4 x 6 radio freq, infrared, & acoustic decoy launchers
    Sonar:
    - Multistatic Variable Depth Sonar System
    - Hull-mounted sonar
    - Quad directional active-passive array
    - High-powered towed sonar arrray
    Armament:
    - 48 Cell Mk 41 Vertical Launch System (ESSM, SM2)
    - 1 x Mk 45 5” 62 Calibre Gun
    - 2 x 4 Advanced HARPOON missiles
    - 1 x 20mm Phalanx CIWS
    - 2 x 30mm Bushmaster-Typhoon auto-cannons
    Aviation:
    - 1 x Hanger for
    - 1 x S-70 Seahawk & UAV Helos
    Boats:
    - 2 x Rigid Hull Inflatable Boats

    Ships in Class[/u]:

    HMAS Hobart (D-42)
    HMAS Brisbane (D-43)
    HMAS Sydney (D-44)

    DESCRIPTION:
    The Hobart class AEGIS destroyers are a class of three air warfare destroyers (AWDs) for the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). Planning for a class to replace the Adelaide class frigates and restore the a world-class anti-air capability, as well as strong multi-mission capabilities in ASW and ASuW, began by 2000 under acquisition project SEA 4000. Although the designation "Air Warfare Destroyer" implies ships dedicated to the defence of a naval force or assets ashore from aircraft and missile attack, as stated, the planned Australian destroyers will also be able to operate in anti-surface, anti-submarine, and naval gunfire support roles.

    The first ship, HMAS Hobart D-42, will enter service in December 2014. HMAS Brisbane D-43 is due in March 2016, and HMAS Sydney D-43 by June 2017.

    Each destroyer will have a length of 483 ft, a maximum beam of 61 ft, and a draught of 18 ft. At launch, the ships will have a full-load displacement of 7,000 tons.

    The standard ship's company is 186-strong, plus 16 air-wing personnel to operate and maintain the ship's helicopter. However, there is a total accommodation aboard for 31 officers and 203 sailors total, or a total of 234.

    Planning/Construction:
    Planning for the Australian Air Warfare Destroyer continued through the mid-2000s. The American Aegis combat system was selected as the intended combat system and ASC as the primary shipbuilder in 2005. In late 2005, the AWD Alliance was formed as a consortium of the Defence Material Organisation, ASC, and Raytheon. Between 2005 and 2007, Gibbs & Cox's Evolved Arleigh Burke class destroyer and Navantia's Álvaro de Bazán class frigate competed for selection as the AWD design. Although the Arleigh Burke design was larger and more capable, the Álvaro de Bazán design was selected in June 2007 as it was an existing design that would be cheaper and quicker to build. Three ships were ordered; the contract included an option to order a fourth destroyer, which has not been exercised to date.

    Each ship will be assembled at ASC's facility in Osborne, South Australia from 31 pre-fabricated "blocks" built at ASC and two other sites. NQEA Australia and the Forgacs Group were selected in May 2009 to construct the additional modules, but within two months, the modules assigned to NQEA were reallocated to BAE Systems Australia. The first block completed by BAE was distorted and incompatible with other sections: disagreements over the cause of the error and growing delays in the project led the AWD Alliance to redistribute the modules again, with some to be built by Navantia.

    Weapons and Aircraft:
    Each ship's main weapon is a 48-cell Mark 41 Vertical Launch System. The cells are capable of firing the RIM-66 Standard 2 anti-aircraft missile or the quad-packed RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow point-defence missile. The Force 2030 white paper indicates that the Hobart's Mark 41 launchers are likely to be equipped to accomoodate the standard 6 anti-aircraft missile and the Tomahawk cruise missile at a later date.

    The missiles are supplemented by two four-canister launchers for Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and a BAE Systems Mark 45 Mod 4, 5-inch gun with a 62-calibre barrel. The 5-inch gun has a maximum range of 14.7 miles with normal projectiles, but will be capable of firing extended range munitions in support of land forces. Two Babcock Mark 32 Mod 9 two-tube torpedo launchers will be carried, and used to fire Eurotorp MU90 torpedoes for close-in ASW operations. For close-in defence, the ships will carry an aft-facing Phalanx 20mm CIWS system, plus two M242 Bushmaster autocannons in Typhoon mounts sited on the bridge wings.

    The Hobarts will each initially carry a single S-70B-2 Seahawk helicopter. The helicopter will be replaced by the MH-60 Romeo version of the Seahawk once it enters RAN service. Two rigid-hulled inflatable boats are also carried.

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    This thread should be used for all issues regarding the Hobart class. Their construction, outfitting, trials and testing, and their deployment and service as time goes on.

    Their are a lot of RAN fans out their, and the HMAS Hobart is going to be a class of vessels they can be justifiably proud of to go along with their Canberra LPH vessles which might just end up getting fixed-wing Naval Aviation back into use in the RAN.

    They will need powerful AAW and mulit-mission combatants to protect them and the Hobart Class (derived from the Spanish Bazan Class - but with more powerful engines, the larger AEGIS, and more displacement) will fit that bill.
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    Re: Austalia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    It looks like a smaller version of Arleigh. How this baby compared to Chinese 052C+ or British Type 45 DDG ?
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    Re: Austalia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Quote Originally Posted by antiterror13 View Post
    It looks like a smaller version of Arleigh. How this baby compared to Chinese 052C+ or British Type 45 DDG ?
    It's an updated and upgraded Bazan. It uses the same AEGIS radar as the Burke, whereas the Bazan has a little smaller, less capanbile one (1D vs 1F).

    It carries 48 VLS cells...but 32 will be filled with SM-2 ER missiles with 150+km range, and the other 16 will have quad packs of Evolved Sea Sparrow Missiles (meaning 64 medium range ESSMs), so they will carry 96 AAW missiles, and then have the 20mm CIWS...though I would have preferred to see one RAM launcher on there too.

    It has increased engine power as well. I think that in terms of its battle management system, which is a proven and thoroughly tested AEGIS system on over 100 vessels world-wide, and in terms of the numbers and coverage (Long Range and Mid Range) missiles it carries...and when you look at its ASW capabilities, that it is pretty much ahead of the Type 052C. Probably equal to (over all)the Type 45s and Horizon vessels, but still a more mature, proven and established battle management and sensor system.

    The Aussies will build three of these and still have an option for a fourth I believe.

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    It sounds very formidable. Quad pack concept is very interesting ... hope China navy adopt that concept and I believe in solid fuel technology, China still somehow behind the USA. It means China will need bigger missile to have the same load or range.

    BTW, how much this Hobart Class would cost Australian Govt. I'd imagine would be around $1.5B each

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    I know forms follow function especially when it comes to warship design BUT I have to say I do not care too much for it's design. I'm sure it's a world class destroyer but the low bridge relative to it's very tall superstructure is not very attractive. To each his own I guess. I'm sure many here find it to be a beautiful design.

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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Royal Australian Navy Hobart Class destroyers AN/SPY-1D(V) phased array radar arrive in Adelaide

    Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare announced the arrival in Adelaide of the first two state of the art ‘SPY’ radar array faces that will be installed on the Air Warfare Destroyers (AWDs). “The multi-function SPY radar is capable of search, automatic detection, tracking of air and surface targets and missile engagement support,” Mr Clare said.

    “It works to distinguish signals from stationary or moving targets and to identify and reject ‘clutter’ such as clouds and flocks of birds.”

    The AN/SPY-1D(V) phased array radar will provide the Hobart Class destroyers with comprehensive surveillance around the ship.
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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Great news for Australia. Apparently they were tested in the US and qualified and then sent on to Australia. The Hobarts have the AN/SPY-1D(V) which is more capable (and heavier) than the 1F installed on the Bazan class in Spain.

    Quote Originally Posted by kwaigonegin View Post
    I know forms follow function especially when it comes to warship design BUT I have to say I do not care too much for it's design. I'm sure it's a world class destroyer but the low bridge relative to it's very tall superstructure is not very attractive. To each his own I guess. I'm sure many here find it to be a beautiful design.
    At first I felt exactly the same about the five Spanish Bazan class...but they have grown on me over they years...and particularly after thet were integrated into a US CSG a couple of years ago and performed so ably, I found I liked them more and more. The new Hobarts will be capable of the same (as are all AEGIS vessels) when needed, except with the larger and more capable full 1D(V) version of AEGIS, they will be even more capable.

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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Quote Originally Posted by kwaigonegin View Post
    I know forms follow function especially when it comes to warship design BUT I have to say I do not care too much for it's design. I'm sure it's a world class destroyer but the low bridge relative to it's very tall superstructure is not very attractive. To each his own I guess. I'm sure many here find it to be a beautiful design.
    Out of consideration of reducing interference for the aft-facing radars, such a design is actually better than the arrangement used on the Aleigh Burke and 052C in my opinion. The remaining alternative would be to use an arrangement like that of Akizuki class.
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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    So much is a piece of this baby ?

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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    Out of consideration of reducing interference for the aft-facing radars, such a design is actually better than the arrangement used on the Aleigh Burke and 052C in my opinion. The remaining alternative would be to use an arrangement like that of Akizuki class.
    Here's a comparison of the Burke and the Bazan from pics looking at it from the stern"


    Arleigh Burke



    Bazan


    Since they are canted, there is not too much difference in terms of obstruction. The Bazan and Hobart do have the arrays sitting higher relatively with the arrays situated something like 1/2 to 3/4s above the stack while the Burke's have the arrays top at the same height as the stack. I believe the Burke's actually may be physycally higher.

    And yes, the Akizuki class, with its radars mounted on the deck house at the stern of the vessel, just forward of the helo deck, is probably the best configuration for the arrays themselves in terms of obstruction, because there is a complete unobstructed view from that point, though the arrays are probably not as high there as they are on the higher, main deck housing forward of th other designs.
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    Re: Australia's Hobart Class AEGIS DDG

    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    Out of consideration of reducing interference for the aft-facing radars, such a design is actually better than the arrangement used on the Aleigh Burke and 052C in my opinion. The remaining alternative would be to use an arrangement like that of Akizuki class.
    Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you at all.. with the APARs up high and clean like that it is probably a very good arrangement. I just think it's not attractive is all...I understand this is a warship and not a billionaire's yacht but still it's my personal opinion.

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