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4Tran said:

Beijing would never admit it, but it's more advantageous if Japan doesn't take back the statement. If they did, then China loses the ability to really hurt Japan so they wouldn't be able to gain much out of it. Sure, if Takaichi were to apologize her political career would be over, but that's not something that China cares about. It's much more useful to have an excuse to start bullying the JSDF and to make an example out of Japan.

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Nevermore said:

What concerns me is how this situation will play out. China has already raised the stakes significantly, but if Japan fails to respond, China risks creating an awkward stalemate. This would likely be followed by the anticipated prolonged freeze in Sino-Japanese relations. That said, Japan's controversial remarks do provide China with justification for more assertive actions. It's akin to former U.S. House Speaker Pelosi's visit to Taiwan, which gave China grounds to cross the median line of the Taiwan Strait.

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plawolf said:

Say what you will of lettuce lady, but even she never came close to getting a superpower to serve an existential threat level notice promising to end the UK if she followed through with a policy she floated.

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Randomuser said:

Jai hinds love to constantly say how China sent people to India to learn stuff while India sent people to China to teach stuff. They consider this a flex since India is the net exporter of knowledge.

Someone raised an interesting point. Could it be that China simply is more interested in proactive learning while India doesn't like learning actively and prefers to teach instead? A lot of the stuff India knows now is coz they were kinda forced to when the Brits ruled them and it was a matter of survival to them. Its basically reactive learning.

Thinking about it made me realize things make more sense knowing this. Notice how India keeps trying to call itself Vishvaguru which means world's teacher. It knows everything and therefore teaches the world. It doesn't need to learn anything coz that implies it doesn't know and thats bad. Suddenly I remember the Three Idiots Movie from India and this fits in exactly. Like the genius inventor was saying the system is stupid coz no one really wants to learn anything at uni out of interest except how to get the best score via rote learning. And the big bad boss is the Vishvaguru principal who constantly uses his platform to teach why this cutthroat system is just and why its ok to basically treat the students like trash.

Think about it. Imagine if some guys from India brought back paper or printing much earlier to India. Then they wouldn't have lost of many historical records. They would have more documentation to help with the country instead of letting the Brits write their history. Or they learnt how to have a centralized statecraft model allowing more effective management of a country rather than s decentralized feudal states which allowed invaders to come in so often. They're basically boasting they missed such opportunities coz India is Vishvaguru and learning from others is bad. That would explain why they are trying to hard to say they discovered everything 5000 years ago according to the Mahabharata like ancient Bharat nuclear missiles and 10g Wifi because saying they need to learn from others is shameful.

Even the Qing dynasty which was when this arrogance took over China, during its early stages it had no issues allowing Jesuits or whatever to teach scientific knowledge. Its only later it got worse. China is playing catchup now due to it. That can be considered reactive learning. But the difference is once it starts learning, it becomes obsessed with learning the ins and out in-depth which eventually becomes proactive learning. Thats why it can go from playing catchup to becoming the lead in stuff like automation, AI, state to private investment plans etc. Even when its reactive learning, China finds a way to eventually turn it proactive. China's aim is not to become the world's teacher. Its aim is to become a great nation to support its own people.

Looking at this made me realize why India seems to mainly always be reactive in whatever future plan it has. When US/China announces it wants to do something, India usually does the same shortly after. Whether or not this plan is even relevant to the long term interest of India doesn't matter. Notice I say the word announced coz if China doesn't talk about it since we know loads of developments aren't high key or "cool" right now, they won't care about it.

I will always fear a guy who is willing to say he doesn't know and is willing to constantly learn especially if its proactive over a guy who calls himself a great teacher and is confident he knows all there is to know.

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• Lifelong learning: Confucianism views learning not as a phase that ends, but as a perpetual journey of self-improvement.
• Self-cultivation: The aim is to cultivate virtues like benevolence, righteousness, wisdom, and trustworthiness throughout one's life through continuous study and practice.
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• Accumulating knowledge: The process involves building on past knowledge to understand new things and to apply what has been learned to the world, which is a continuous effort.

Puss in Boots said:

It would be wonderful if China did that. My only concern is that China's current demand is simply for Japan to retract its previous provocations, and then everything will return to normal. I have a strong feeling things will develop that way.

I've been pondering whether China has truly reached a point of no return. We all know that escalating diplomatic incidents are often influenced by the domestic environment. China's economic difficulties clearly haven't reached the point where an external conflict is needed to divert attention, and its domestic politics are quite stable, with no need to create an additional enemy for immediate confrontation.

My conclusion is that China might use this diplomatic conflict to deter countries attempting to provoke China on the Taiwan issue. If Japan yields, then apart from the United States, no other country will dare to provoke China on the Taiwan issue. This will create a relatively stable international environment for China's economic development. I hope I'm just overthinking things.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Japan will never retract that statement, no matter what China does.

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Puss in Boots said:

In any case, Japan cannot exist independently of the United States at present, and everything it does will be subject to direct US intervention. If the situation escalates further and China initiates military operations in the Ryukyu Islands, it will negatively impact the image of US military hegemony. The US may order Japan to retract its statement to de-escalate the situation before it reaches that point. In my view, China currently has no intention of completely confronting the US, and this conflict will at most end here.

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tamsen_ikard said:

Japan will never retract that statement, no matter what China does. Hatred of China is the core ideology of Japan's existence now. People think Japan is a US vassal and controlled by US. No, US-Japan alliance is entirely by choice by Japan.

Japan wants US to be there cause of their extreme fear and hatred of China. They want to keep China down and they thought US could do that. That's why Japan stayed in the US alliance when they could have gotten out long ago.

It should be understood by everyone that every single US "vassal" in east asia whether its Korea, Japan, Philippines or Australia are not vassals but willing subordinate of US empire. They all have a reason to be part of this empire by choice. They could easily get out of US alliance by passing a law to oust US forces and get out of the alliance. But they will never do that because population of these countries genuinely believe they need US.

It mostly comes from western worship, extreme hatred for China and fear of China's rise. They basically like how they used to operate but hate the fact that China's rise is changing that order.

China will have to overpower these countries in order to change their mindset. This could be through economic sanctions combined with military pressure. It could be full scale war. But there has to be pressure put on to these places. China will not regain its dominant position in east asia for free. They will have to fight for it against those very neighbours.

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