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henrik

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AssassinsMace said:
Where does China get all this money to subsidize everything the West accuses China of deploying to undermine their products in international markets? It has to come from somewhere. Money doesn’t grow on trees yet they dare to ask if China’s GDP numbers are real?

Food is cheap in China when Americans believe they’re feeding and preventing Chinese from starving to death. So how can food be cheaper in China if it’s coming from the US where food is expensive? It’s because what facts they want to believe that they can never let go are based on lies.
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China has achieved the feat of uniting Western libertarians and anarcho-capitalists in defending protectionism against Chinese trade.

That's quite an accomplishment.
 
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AssassinsMace said:
Where does China get all this money to subsidize everything the West accuses China of deploying to undermine their products in international markets? It has to come from somewhere. Money doesn’t grow on trees yet they dare to ask if China’s GDP numbers are real?

Food is cheap in China when Americans believe they’re feeding and preventing Chinese from starving to death. So how can food be cheaper in China if it’s coming from the US where food is expensive? It’s because what facts they want to believe that they can never let go are based on lies.
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Subsidies don't always consiste of cash necessarily.

But I've read the EU report that detailed allegations on subsidies. A lot of the work is... sub-par. For instance, the EU could not determine whether the loans Chinese auto companies received were "market-rate", because they couldn't figure out what the "market-rate" was for bank loans.

So what they did was downgrade all of the credit ratings of Chinese auto companies to B, and determined that their bank loans were a form of subsidies (by the way, this also ignores billions in auto loans and favorable credit terms given to EU's own favored sectors).

Another funny bit was how they justified some of these ratings. Geely was considered to be a risky, non-established entity that wouldnt be able to get good credit terms on a loan. Which completely ignores that Geely is owned by a massive conglomerate Zhejiang Geely Holdings...

So no, I don't particularly hold the "subsidies" argument in high regard. The people who debate this topic on twitter or various Forums simply haven't read anything about the subsidies they claim to be so concerned about.
 
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Trade surplus crossed $1 trillion from Jan-Nov, the highest recorded by any country ever. Still need to add December for the annual total.

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Waiting for some reporters (i.e BBC) would say "at what cost?" hahahahah

Jan–Nov 2025: Surplus already $1.08 trillion, surpassing the 2024 full-year record of $992 billion.

It is expected the total surplus for the whole 2025 ~$1.25T ... amazing!

The US in 2025 is expected almost the same as China at $0.9T ... ohhhh wait .. it is DEFICIT ... my bad ;)

Surprising that India will have deficit ~$300B in 2025 .. how come? thats why the Rupee is failing fast

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probably some Jai Hindi would be proud having deficit, the same league as US, UK as France :rolleyes:
 
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