China's Space Program Thread II
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China should make a movie Where they and Russia offer the Americans help over and over again and the Americans consistently refusing the help, just like the Kursk incident movies.
They are preparing obviously to launch, and a NOTAM has gone out for the 25th of November, so that is the date people are citing now. We have also gotten new information on how they plan to return the SZ-21 crew as well as the date, likely the same time as planned prior, April 2026, with the SZ-22 vehicle. I have no idea on the repair capabilities with regards to the outer-layer of the SZ-20 capsule window, I think it's good the way they are handling it though.
We have another NOTAM, Long March 3B from Xichang for the 21st of November.
In December?, we should be seeing a few payloads launched, aside from the known ones. The Jilin Aerospace Park had some announcements regarding these newly unveiled/constructed payloads. We have the Jilin-1 Gaofen 07B01, Jilin-1 Gaofen 07C01, and the Jilin-1 Gaofen 07D01. Information on them is quoted below:
We also have some images from the launch ceremony.
Interstellar Glory will deliver a rocket recovery ship to the Jiangdu District in Yangzhou City, as they continue to invest in local infrastructure for the space economy.
I have to concur with what people are saying about Western reporting on this issue.
A number of gloating videos popped up in my feed on Youtube, even as the return operation was underway.
One of them that I clicked on was this one:
It was about how SpaceX could 'rescue' the Shenzhou-20 crew. The crew were probably already leaving the station when it was posted.
The comments sections of these videos were the absolute dregs of imperial chauvinism. One person said, 'I guess China has its own Boeing corporation,' in reference to astronauts being stranded in space.
I have to say, though, that after the Taikonauts returned, the comments section of the posted video was slamming the channel for inaccurate reporting. Pointing out that 9 days is better than 9 months, for example.
However, a separate video, "China revealed the Real Problem with Capsules on China Space Station, Worse than SpaceX," provoked many awful comments.
-Even tofu dreg here.
-It’s a piece of crap! I wouldn’t fly on that contraption!
-Maybe they should make a better spacecraft?
-There’s no mention that their spacecraft is a copy of the Russian Soyuz that they bought the plans from back in the early 90’s!
-We've been joking about 'Made in China' for 50 years now - this does nothing to change that.
-China's reliance on stolen Soviet technology, mimicking Soyuz and Mir, aint' working too well, eh China? Perhaps you should create your own technology, eh?
And look at the cope in these comments:
1. "What's the problem? China took 9 days back to earth, USA need wait 9 months then back on earth."
2. "The US didn't need 9 months... it was contract negotiations that took that length of time. Time was not an issue on the ISS.
Sorry about your confusion."
3. "It took 9 months though, for what ever reason"
4. "But China still has 3 taikonauts in space without a vehicle to return in. So, the timer is still running. They just moved the problem from one crew to another. The fun will be getting the taikonauts back. I presume it will take 2 launches at least, unless they try to fly without anyone on board. If there is one pilot, then it will still take a 2nd launch with only 1 or 2 taikonauts so the last person gets back."
5. "Even if they lose them, meh, no biggie. It's not like they are actual "astronauts".
What we can take away from this is the following:
A. The way Western news agencies report is one thing. But there exists huge 'informal' commentary via Youtube and social media, in which any unattributed 'agency' can inject its viewpoint.
B. China's quick solution for the Shenzhou-20 crew shut down many of the stupid comments being made. Not only that, it actually reversed the discussion. Many people were pointing out that China solved the issue much faster than Boeing did.
C. "China derangement syndrome" is so prevalent among some individuals that they make non sequitur comments, such as blaming Chinese engineering for a piece of space debris hitting the return capsule. I think we can assume, though, that many of the comments were bots. The username for Comment 5, above, was @MikenomorCCP
So either bots or trolls were quickly mobilized when this incident happened. China's quick handling of it made a lot of their points moot. Having the spare capacity inside systems to actually address unexpected problems is something that comes as a surprise to today's West.