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    Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Well we've heard enough of US vs PRC all the time, why don't we discuss a theoretical scenario where the might of US war machine meets the beast of the East. Assume they're fighting a common enemy and they decided to work together or fight in 2 fronts, what do you expect we will be seeing? USMC storming the beaches with PLA landing vehicles roaring from the back? Chinese artillery shaking the lands with artillery shells? Or current favorite, J-20 working with F-22? Chinese attack subs with American surface combatant supports? What types of conflicts or problems do you think both sides will run into, in terms of both operational and hardware?

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    What about if the crisis in Egypt got seriously out of hand that the US asked PRC to assist them in bringing order to the country under the approval of the UN.Would this be a simple matter of overwhelming the Egyptian forces to to gain initial security and then dealing with the resulting conditions.Bear in mind they will have to keep civilian casualties to an absolute minimum.It's not the scenario you request but an interesting one to me and and also quite possible if something like heavy civilian killings and torture were to outbreak and/or the Suez canal got closed down by Mubarak.It would be a better conflict as a pilot scheme for the 2 militaries to begin working with each other in a real live situation.
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    i was sort of thinking of a massive operation, but this planet has no place for any conflict of that scale anymore. i'd go so far to say it had went extinct ever since cold war or, ww2 for that matter. contemporary world had shown that the stakes were already way too high for any countries to engage in a war of that scale now -- the reconstructions were simply too great for even any sort of money to be invested in that manner. but for theoretical purposes, we can use your scenario

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    The closest possible example of such an operation would be something happening in central Asia, through the framework of the SCO that would also involve Russian participation, in the event that a friendly government in that region is deposed by what all parties universally view as terrorists who threaten the interests of all global parties.

    Besides that the Chinese already cooperate with America in many warzones, not directly as a military force but as an economic force that aids in reconstruction of local economies through its private businesses. Some of the most powerful foreign firms currently operating in Iraq and Afghanistan are Chinese, to my knowledge anyway.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    If Qadhafi goes crazy enough, the US and China might find themselves in a mutual interest situation. Qadhafi has made some ugly comments of China in Africa.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Qadhafi is a mental case in my opinion.

    But that's not the subject of this thread. Before any Theoretical Sino-American joint operation takes place training must first take place. Perhaps some sort of humanitarian relief effort training or an actual relief could be accomplished today if need be. That would be a start.
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    The *real* question is, what kind of problem would be so big that it would require China and the US to work together?

    I'm betting "Alien Invasion". (And I'm not talking about those Mexicans!)
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Quote Originally Posted by solarz View Post
    The *real* question is, what kind of problem would be so big that it would require China and the US to work together?

    I'm betting "Alien Invasion". (And I'm not talking about those Mexicans!)
    Lol I was actually thinking the same thing aye.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Well I've read that a Chinese oil company's facilities in Libya has been attacked. It wasn't clear who did the attack or they were looters. I thought that was weird to hear China had 30,000 people in Libya when Qadhafi has already made some ugly comments about China in Africa in general. I don't know how many people other countries have in Libya but that's going to be a huge situation if Qadhafi starts attacking foreigners.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    If in some country both the US and China want to intervene to rescue their citizens the easiest cooperation would be to divide the area of operation in relation to the resources locally available to both, rescue the citizens of both, and others, by the party responsible for that area, and exchange enough officers for adequate coordination. That can be arranged within a day.
    But each want to have some certainty that the other will not exploit such an agreement for political gain.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Haha, so THIS is where we can talk a little political stuff?

    Oh hell no..popeye

    Don't know how you guys missed the news, for US is promoting the G2 concept anytime and anywhere possible, I thought you should know the news already.

    Last year in Haiti, after the earthquake that even destored the toughest building of the country - Presitential house, China sent out rescue team before anyone could, even before the American's response.

    And the storey start: Haiti soon slip into social chaos, that no law enforcement at all. UN passes the decision to sent MORE Peace keeping police force, and authorize America to send in TROOPS for peace keeping force.

    China is already the largest Peace keeping police force presence at Haiti before the earthquake, and now 82nd Airborne Division of USA has now been dropped (actual air drop) into Haiti. The world media took a whole lot of time cover the classic footage:

    China's Blue beret (helmet) UN police force, armed with full gears and body armor, together with Airborne dress of G.I.Joes, CO-ORPORATELY patroling the rubbles.

    None of you recall this joint operation? Because american media is selling "G2" concept like never before, after that operation.

    Although me and my govt don't buy the sales, but it is indeed a good show.
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Quote Originally Posted by bd popeye View Post
    Qadhafi is a mental case in my opinion.

    But that's not the subject of this thread. Before any Theoretical Sino-American joint operation takes place training must first take place. Perhaps some sort of humanitarian relief effort training or an actual relief could be accomplished today if need be. That would be a start.
    I say even such kind of joint operation has took place, it would be like the old times, Ally and Sovits do not lead or under the leadership, of each other.

    The joint patrol at Haiti, Chinese police officers and G.I.Joes, they do not command each other, and they communicate by body luanguage for the basic tactical moves. Good thing is, both side have a very good sense of tactical moves, and the mobs do know what that two flags on their arms means.

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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Regarding.. Haiti the US troops were pulled out of Haiti in June.

    (which no matter how you address it, it is OCCUPATIONAL TROOPS of WWII enforcement)
    Occupational troops? If you have ever been to Japan you'd know this was not true.

    Here's a link to the US effort in Haiti.

    USAID/Haiti: Post Earthquake Response Home Page

    Somewhere there's a photo of a Chinese soldier and US soldier patrolling together in Haiti..

    China, US peacekeepers conduct joint patrol in Haiti
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    This is the type of military co-operation needed between the PRC & USA!







    A Chinese peacekeeping policeman (Front) carrying out a UN mission potrols with US soldiers appointed by the United Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti (MINUSTAH) in Port-au-Prince, capital of Haiti, January 28, 2010. It was the first time that MINUSTAH appointed the US army to participate in a combined action in Haiti. [Xinhua]
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    Re: Theoretical Sino-American joint operation

    Knock off the political and off topic discussion.

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