PLA Uniforms & Kit

I've merged 5 PLA uniform threads into one thread. One dates back to 2005! Many of the older photos maybe missing if they were hosted by a now defunct photo hosting site or if they were hot linked. Never the less there's interesting reading in this thread! Enjoy!!

bd popeye super moderator

Originally Posted by bd popeye

Yes he is.. if you'd check the World Armed Forces Pictures thread you'd know the caption sez..

whoever he is I wouldn't want to mess with him. He looks really badass and menacing!

Originally Posted by kwaigonegin

whoever he is I wouldn't want to mess with him. He looks really badass and menacing!

Yeh he looks like one of those Waffen SS soldier or Nazi Gestapo

Actually, if he is ever digitized he would look like this !!

And why is he equipped with full size G-36???

I have no clue. Maybe he's a ground pounder supporting the Panzer brigade. I don't write the captions ya' know...

As I posted when I first saw that photo I posted with that photo .."20th century badassery at it's finest!"

Go to the link below for plenty of info & photos about the Bundeswehr

Bundeswehr / Military of Germany

I think the current PLA uniforms are alright... remember some of them are elite, others less so. The pictures of the PLA SOF operating with the PLAN in somalia wear uniforms which are up to par, I think -- with knee pads and strong looking body armour etc.

And remember the doctrines of the PLA and US Army are quite different, I think the US these days focus a lot more on carrying a lot of gear on one soldier while the PLA obviously is less.

This picture:


is pretty good -- the soldiers are up to par, with pouches and body armour and good fitting helmet etc.

Also, if you can find pics of the pilots who flew for August 1 performing at last years zhuhai airshow, they also look pretty up to par with Western pilots.

The PLA should have better uniforms over time as they get more funding... Remember the PLA overall are still quite underfunded compared to other militaries, "per capita". And I feel the Type 07 combat uniforms look alright.
Comparing the PLA uniform's looks is really superficial as well, and it's kind of just picking on them. They look fine for the kind of funding they get.

Originally Posted by bd popeye

I have no clue. Maybe he's a ground pounder supporting the Panzer brigade. I don't write the captions ya' know...

As I posted when I first saw that photo I posted with that photo .."20th century badassery at it's finest!"

Go to the link below for plenty of info & photos about the Bundeswehr

Bundeswehr / Military of Germany

Badass you said?






Okay okay I am just playin'

Originally Posted by Bltizo

This picture:


is pretty good -- the soldiers are up to par, with pouches and body armour and good fitting helmet etc.

That's not body armour. That's just normal load bearing vest. I don't think that thing stops ANY bullet.

Body Armour / ballistic vest is a lot thicker than that.




EDIT:
Okay I found these pics :



See, these ones, they look far more substantial - a lot thicker and have more rooms to put those boron carbide plates.

MORE:

Can a moderator please change the title of this thread to PLA logistics or something similar? I think we should dedicate this thread to the more basic aspects to the PLA, such as field kitchens, water purifiers, tents, MREs, and etc.

Anyways, found some new pics of PLA logistics.

First let's look at the MREs. Napoleon once said the troops have to march with their stomachs full. The personnel in the USN strike groups wouldn't be as diligent if wasn't for the fancy lobster and steak dinners they get everyday.

I have seen many MREs coming out of the PLA, but this is the most comprehensive review and best packed, so I'm doing this one as a starter to this series.

Type 06 - #1

Here's grand shot of the whole package.

This is the assorted rice, which is very similar to Mexican rice you see in Latino restaurants, often consists of rice, red beans, black beans, and etc. You don't find this often in Chinese cuisine, at least I personally never ate anything like this before, I guess they probably just added it because these beans are filling and are nutritious.

PS: This fan, the one doing the review, ate this cause he forgot to bring lunch to work. I guess he probably stockpiled quite a bit of these MREs at work.

Here's the heat pack. He said it wasn't too hard trying to open this package. He once review the US MRE, which was infamous for hard to open.

I personally heard the rumour saying that the US version of MRE is almost bullet proof, not sure if this is true.

This is a small water pack that comes with the heat pack, it's said "do not consume" on the package. This is a pretty sweet thought, since finding water would often be hectic in the battle zone. With this small water packet, you won't have to go search for water or waste your own drinking water to heat up your food.

The heating pack inflated from the steam.

Fried Rice. This takes longer than microwave, but does the job in the wilderness.

The assorted fried rice. It looks weird to me for some reasons. Never seen beans in fried rice before.

PS: notice the spoon that comes in the package.

Hot sauce, similar to Old Frank's tobasco sauce that's in the American counterpart.

This is called pork egg roll, but it's really just something similar to pork spam sandwiched between egg cake.

Type 06 - Instant Meal #1
This is similar to the "First Strike Ration", which requires no heating or preparation. You can just unwrap it and start eating; aimed at personnel that are in the middle of a conflict.

The packaging is very small.

It contains the pork egg roll I mentioned earlier, pressed biscuits (old timers probably remember this), energy bar (personally never seen this in China, probably learned this from western counterparts), drink crystals, and pickled vegetables.

This energy bar thing is too sweet, almost like pop tart. It's made with corn bread like thing on the outside, sandwiched with bean paste or some sort of sugar filling. This guy stopped half way through and gave the rest to his daughter.

This is it for today, Ill post more later on.

mods note >> Don't hotlink your photos. Use a photo hosting site.

Bah, the links are dead. Any idea if these screw up your stool if you eat them for too long? I wouldn't be surprised if they did. I hear the American MREs do that.

Can a moderator please change the title of this thread to PLA logistics or something similar?

Yep.. I'll change it to PLA Uniforms and kit.

The personnel in the USN strike groups wouldn't be as diligent if wasn't for the fancy lobster and steak dinners they get everyday.

Really. I did not know that. But I know 20 years ago when I was on the Nimitz in the Persian Gulf region we had steak and lobster about three times a week.. not everyday. And we always had a fully stocked salad bar. The USN has been serving hot meals at sea 24/7/365 for over 100 years. Get over yourself.

Bah, the links are dead.

That's because pugachev_diver hot linked his photos. Next time use a photo hosting site such a photobucket or imageshack!

Originally Posted by bd popeye

...Really. I did not know that. But I know 20 years ago when I was on the Nimitz in the Persian Gulf region we had steak and lobster about three times a week.. not everyday. And we always had a fully stocked salad bar. The USN has been serving hot meals at sea 24/7/365 for over 100 years. Get over yourself....

Hey Popeye, not to intel-digging anything, but sounds like "you were there" at 1st Persian Gulf war. I got a somewhat very related topic that you might able to help.

PLAN Marine (China's Marine "belongs" to PLAN) got this type 07 camo that is "sea camo", which looks like and sounds like, it can only work on sea. And military PR's photo always shows them walking among trees with that sea camos as easy targets. This has been a major critics inside China and among international forums. (of the "stupidity" of these sea camos)

As my understanding, USMC used to have same type of sea camos roughly the era when you are serving USN, (not sure they still have it today or not)

Do you have any proffessional explanation that "sea camos REALY works"? With photos of USMC dressing those sea camos AT LAND and WORKS to explan, the better.

Thanks.

Do you have any proffessional explanation that "sea camos REALY works"? With photos of USMC dressing those sea camos AT LAND and WORKS to explan, the better

Never saw the USMC wearing any sort of sea cammo back in my time in the USN from '71-'91.They wore green utilities..then woodland cammo and the original desert cammo.. If I find a photo of what you described I'll post it.

The USN nowadays has the NWU(Navy Working Uniform)


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Navy Working Uniform(NWU) for E-1 to O-10
KINGS BAY, Ga. (Feb. 19, 2009) Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (MCPON) Rick West answers questions from Sailors stationed at Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay. West wore the new Navy working uniform and spoke about the correct wear and guidelines of the uniform. (U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Jennifer A. Villalovos/Released)

Believe it or not the purpose of the USN cammo design is to hide dirt , paint and grease stains on the uniform. Not hide from the enemy. As of today Special Forces Sailors and SEABEEs in combat situations on shore wear a variety of uniforms From woodland cammo to US Army ACU Or USMC MARPAT BDU.. Right now the USN is exploring another uniform for its special forces.

Originally Posted by bd popeye

The USN nowadays has the NWU(Navy Working Uniform)


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Believe it or not the purpose of the USN cammo design is to hide dirt , paint and grease stains on the uniform. Not hide from the enemy. As of today Special Forces Sailors and SEABEEs in combat situations on shore wear a variety of uniforms From woodland cammo to US Army ACU Or USMC MARPAT BDU.. Right now the USN is exploring another uniform for its special forces.

Thanks.

So is that a clear reply that "sea camo" are NOT used for US force (don't mind USN or USMC) to actually "hit the beach"?

Do you have any professional comments about PLAN's sea camo effectiveness? I have no doubt it works at sea, but is it suitable to wear to "hit the beach"?

So is that a clear reply that "sea camo" are NOT used for US force (don't mind USN or USMC) to actually "hit the beach"?

Correct. The Marines hit the beach. Not the Navy except for supourt personell. Such as landing craft pilots and Hospital Corpsmen.

Do you have any professional comments about PLAN's sea camo effectiveness? I have no doubt it works at sea, but is it suitable to wear to "hit the beach"?

Like the USN cammo it is to well scene. Don't the PLAN commandos wear black?

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This one, the guy in the middle, the "sea camo" I am talking about.

The thing is, a lot of photo showing, in excercise, when PLAN Marine (Once again, PLA Marine belongs to PLAN, for reminder) hit the beach, when landed and push inland, that sea camo look very "out of place". Dose it have fatal consequences, during this phase of combat? (Amphibious Landing phase)

Or it is deadly necessary, for you to wear the sea camo, to go through the "yellow water" phase(when approaching the beach, still over water), alive.?