SinoDefence Forum

aquauant

toughest means simplily toughest, physically and with descipline. If you ask a gurkha to stay in one place. He will never move until you tell him to. Of course, I am not saying they will win every battle. They are just grunts. They run (literally) 100km over hilly hk in 14 hrs in boots. Over 24 hrs, he will fail. The british selects one gurkha over every few hundred applicants living in high alttitude Nepal mountainous region.

I am not saying they are the best But they are just toughest.

ravenshield936

I think HK is capable of having a modernized military, at least comparable to the West.

I don't necessary mean they are as powerful, but at least the equipment and training will be. One of the prime examples will be the SDU. It is world renowned, and as effective as the West, as well as that they sometimes train with the SAS, SDU, according to what I have read.

But finally of course HK probably will not need its own military force for a very long time. HK is a commercial city, and as important in international status like any Western cities.

Nethappy

Hong Kong SDU is more or less something in between a Federal Tatical team and the SAS. They are the best in Hong Kong.
As i said b4 they were first rise and trained by the british SAS.

jchu1988

SDU is generally not used unless its extreme emergengy or for CT. There only about 100 active member of the SDU, so they wont be able to much damage compared to a regular army

Nethappy

They are not supposed to do as much dmg as a regular army. But i was trying to said they got the same role as the SAS has in extreme emergengy and CT and most likely as well trained for that role.
Most tactical opt is handle by the EU and PTU anyway they are some were in between a elities patrol force and a load of mini swat team.

ravenshield936

exactly how "scary" are teh gurkhas?
i have heard they are really deadly soldiers

and the british SAS training..i read bout it

i wonder if the SDU followed the same training, cause if they did they are really elite

Nethappy

Read the post in Join PLA anyone?, I got some proved of training with USN seal.
Anyway, the SDU cross train with other world class CT unit e.g: SAS, Seal Team, GiGN etc.

They do follow some of the training, but not all. Over the years experience gain from cross-training with differnet forces they develop some training program and tactical more suitable for operation in the location and setting of Hong Kong.

weiwei

i can not understand why HK should have a military force. She is just a city of POC. what she need is only a police force. should New York have her own army?

coolstorm

Hong Kong Military Service Corps (HKMSC) (Chinese: 香港軍事服務團) was a British army unit and part of the British garrison in Hong Kong (see British Forces Overseas Hong Kong). Throughout the history of Hong Kong, it has been the only regular British army unit raised in the territory made up almost entirely of Locally Enlisted Personnel (LEP).

The unit was raised in the 1950s/60s with Hong Kong citizens of Chinese descent who have served in the various artillery and coastal defence units during the Battle of Hong Kong in the Second World War. For this reason, members of the HKMSC were frequently nicknamed locally as sui lei pao bing 水雷砲兵 (water mine or coastal artillery soldiers). The unit was disbanded in the early 1990s due to the handover of Hong Kong's sovereignty from the United Kingdom to the People's Republic of China in 1997.

The unit's headquarters and training depot were located at Stonecutters Island. Divided into several squadrons, the unit was commanded by a British career officer (a Lieutenant Colonel) with the assistance of a British or Chinese Regimental Sergeant Major. For most of its existence, the unit has been crucial in providing the British garrison in Hong Kong with support personnel such as drivers, dog-handlers, intelligence operators, interpreters, cooks, clerks, guards, military policemen etc.

During the 1990s the HKMSC has provided personnel to a number of overseas United Nations peacekeeping operations. The unit maintained no battle honour prior to its disbandment.

Phead128

Hong Kong people would rarely die for city. Considering we are not ******READ WHAT THE FORUM RULES SAYS ABOUT MINDLESS NATIONALISTIC BS*******
It would be cheaper to hire mainlanders to serve in their army. 5% of Hong Kong's 235 billion GDP is 12 billion dollars. THAT IS TWICE OF SINGAPORE'S BUDGET.

Hong Kong has excellent support personnel such as drivers, dog-handlers, intelligence operators, interpreters, cooks, clerks, guards, military policemen etc.

Nethappy

If there ever another war and Hong Kong get invaded again, I would happy die for my city. Phead128 if you are from Hong Kong show some love for your city. No matter who's u hire, only the people who is really protecting something important to them are they really going to die for any thing.

Kampfwagen

Personaly, I find this topic sort of confusing. This is sort of like saying "What if Manhattan Island had it's own Military?" I am sure it did at one time, but still, it seems a bit silly to ask.

Forgive me if I miss some universal truth in all of this.

Nethappy

Yeah u are rite.. it's quite silly

sorry for the onliner...

LiLaZnMaGiCsCt

Hong Kong Military Reserves have their own standards in training, much different with the Chinese. They are very much like Singapore, but stronger and more equipped in different situations. Their Garrison Reserves and Infantry Division of the PLA is the main reason why it's known to be very effective in fast response.

Delphi84

Wow!! How large is the standing army in HK? I dun have the actual statistics fo SAF strength here, but I have the rough breakdown:

3 Combined armed division
1 Rapid deployment division
1 People's defense force division
1 Mechanized division
1 Special forces Brigade
1 Independent artillery Brigade
1 Independent Armour Brigade