Chinese Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms

Originally Posted by Broccoli

Missile Mystery in Beijing » FAS Strategic Security Blog

I would take any article written by Hans Kristensen with a gob of salt . He is well known China skeptic. He is the same person who said Chinese Submarine was noisy when asked how he come to this conclusion . He said he got it from navy sources without elaborating which sources.

People like Hans always confused their own preconceived idea with a fact. Their article is poorly researched. I would rather trust people like Mark Stokes, Andrew Erickson. because they speak and write Chinese plus they spend their entire Career observing and studying Chinese military.

Of the two Mark stokes is the better analyst because He is ex US air force intelligence officer attached to Beijing embassy and spend many years perusing public Chinese technical article

Andrew S. Erickson*|*China analysis from original sources

Mark Stokes Web Project 2049 Institute - Welcome

The rumors about the DF-41 were so prevailing that an interviewer on the Chinese CCTV 4 Focus Today program the day before the parade kept asking Major General Zhang Xinan, the Assistant Director of the Second Artillery Corps’ Political Department, about the missile.
But the General appeared to caution about what he called the “so-called DF-41,” saying that “this mystery will be cleared up tomorrow in the parade.” He did not dismiss the existence of a DF-41, but no such missile launcher rolled across the square.

Originally Posted by Lion

Kroko , are you convinced a super powerful ICBM with mulitple MIRV and long enough to reach any part of USA? Or you think you know more than the general?

The general? the general said nothing concrete. He neither confirmed nor denied the existence of DF-41.

Regarding the recent tests, the officials only said a "New ICBM" had indeed been tested. They never divulged the designation. Media out side the PRC speculated that its the DF-41. But this could be something entirely new.

Originally Posted by kroko

The general? the general said nothing concrete. He neither confirmed nor denied the existence of DF-41.

If its non existent. The general will outright denied it. Like there is never Su-35 deal with Russia. CHina will outright denied it. Probably they changed the designation of DF-41 which is the reason why the General did not outright denied it. But definitely this ICBM can have MIRV and definitely a large boaster to give a further lift.

Originally Posted by Lion

If its non existent. The general will outright denied it. Like there is never Su-35 deal with Russia. CHina will outright denied it. Probably they changed the designation of DF-41 which is the reason why the General did not outright denied it. But definitely this ICBM can have MIRV and definitely a large boaster to give a further lift.

There was an political/international component in the SU-35 story. It was necessary to deny the SU-35 deal in order to maintain the prestige of china. No such problem exists in the DF-41 story. No, china will not confirm or deny something as highly secret as an ICBM program. They like to keep the fog-of-war.

Why would they want to change the name of the program? I dont see why, unless its really a new program (DF-51?).

Originally Posted by J-XX

It was confirmed on CCTV English and they interviewed general Zhu Chenghu about a new ICBM that was tested.

Live in denial all you want, but the DF-41 is real.

Deal with it mate.

I would like to see the interview either...

A story on a conventional SRBM unit. In 1993 when the unit was formed to be equiped with the first non-nuclear SRBM, they lacked everything. the soldiers were practicing launching processes with paper cartons imitating their actual equipment, even the buttons were painted on these cartons. Today, these boxes have been preciously kept in the unit museum and simulators are widely used in the trainings.

We can see the DF-11, DF-11A, DF-15 and the its latest version DF-15B with millimeter terminal guidance radar.

Originally Posted by kroko

Care to post a link to this CCTV interview? if it is available, that is.

It's difficult to find but go look on the CNTV website.

Originally Posted by Hendrik_2000

I would take any article written by Hans Kristensen with a gob of salt . He is well known China skeptic. He is the same person who said Chinese Submarine was noisy when asked how he come to this conclusion . He said he got it from navy sources without elaborating which sources.


Andrew S. Erickson*|*China analysis from original sources

Mark Stokes Web Project 2049 Institute - Welcome

That's why I did wrote that I don't agree with him in everything.

HK claims that both DF-31 and DF-31A use same 300kt warhead, but looking pictures of these missiles it's clear that there is different size warheads in use, I think it's very possible that DF-31A is armed with MIRV's.

PLA missile force beefs up weaponry and equipment development

Advisory body makes plan for top-level design

The Expert Advisory Committee (also referred to as "the Committee") of the Second Artillery Force (SAF) of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) was established in 2004. The Committee is designed to provide advice and recommendations for the heads of the SAF in missile weapons’ long-term development planning, project approval verification, R&D supervision, and examination of finalized design.

Pooling together a large number of scientific research elites including academicians from the Chinese Academy of Engineering and senior experts in missile research, the Committee has submitted 100-odd advisory reports to the leading organs of the SAF, becoming an indispensable "think tank" at the decision-making level for the SAF.

Dozens of laboratories support core technology innovation

In recent years, the Armaments Department of the SAF has build up dozens of key laboratories and initially established an integrated system of scientific research and experiments.

These laboratories, like high-quality "incubators", have given birth to a large number of key technologies. These increasingly perfected laboratories have achieved technological breakthroughs of more than 10 important research programs, ensuring a number of important types of missiles to be produced as scheduled.

Why has China not conducted more anti-ballistic missile tests? It has conducted only one test against another incoming missile.

China's first hydrogen bomb test, 1967

Originally Posted by escobar

China's first hydrogen bomb test, 1967

I hope the bombed spot have recovered animate, it do too much bad effect to environment for nuclear test.

It's time to do nuclear bomb tests on the moon. No atmosphere, no life and no problems for any environmental concerns.