60th Anniversary National Day Parade

Originally Posted by ravenshield936

as for navy...'90s...(no carriers though)

Forget carriers , every major country for 50 years has thought up ways to take them out they are too big and vulnerable. This includes the new Balistic missile , skimming high speed Cruise missile or Russia's mythical under water missile.

Future is drone air craft , high altitude scram jet bombers and cruise missiles , Naval air power is at its end prob best is drones on cheap expendable converted tankers.

Originally Posted by bklooste

Forget carriers , every major country for 50 years has thought up ways to take them out they are too big and vulnerable. This includes the new Balistic missile , skimming high speed Cruise missile or Russia's mythical under water missile.

Future is drone air craft , high altitude scram jet bombers and cruise missiles , Naval air power is at its end prob best is drones on cheap expendable converted tankers.

I agree on your proposition, but if we look at current status, realistically. Aircraft carrier had been the best back bone for power projection. Even the USN was building new Carriers, same with the British, French and Italian navies.
Even the Indian Navy was expanding its carrier fleet.

Second major problem of drones, was how much fuel can it carry. Since it carries lesser fuel, its range will still be much limited. Unlike aircrafts loaded on a carrier.

Originally Posted by bklooste

It does , it has laser , GPRS and radar terminal guidance. The ship cant evade it. Its traveling at Mach 10

Wich you know why? Because you got one in your backyard to play with and a CVN in your local town lake as a mock target wich you repeatedly killed in real world tests?
I actually do have doubts how radar, laser and all that fancy radio stuff in a small warhead that is engulfed in a probably plasma like cone when entering the (lower) atmosphere at M10 does at finding a ship in the ocean. I guess problems can be fixed, but I doubt it's a highly reliable weapon after just a few short years of development.

and worse the Air defence radars have trouble picking it up as it is likely to be a very small , very high velocity object. They even had trouble with the 1950 style Scuds.

Like 20 years ago when even then the majority of missiles was actually detected though not sucessfully intercepted due to yet incapable missiles?

Forget carriers , every major country for 50 years has thought up ways to take them out they are too big and vulnerable. This includes the new Balistic missile , skimming high speed Cruise missile or Russia's mythical under water missile.

And yet even China, wich as you make it sound, has the ultimate anti carrier weapon and should see the uselessnes of carriers, plans to built multiple of them.

What I believe a force with big (enough) resources will be able to do, is to force a CSBG to stay outside a certain threat range and hence reduce it's operational impact in theater.
This then boils down to a problem of sustainability and endurance. Either the CSBG cannot break the defenses and is forced to retreat at some, or it will score a tactical victory and be able to exploit that breach in the defesne. Of course, a trap can always be made and even a carrier be lured into it, but that is not the general negation of carriers.
Furthermore a carrier does not always right away have to come in close to a cost, but can controll the waters around a certain theater, thus limiting the inflow of supplys into a certain theater and thereby still achieve a strategic effect.

360 degrees view of the parade.
http://imgs.xinhuanet.com/icon/photo...e_out_2000.swf

Originally Posted by tphuang

shoot, i can't watch it anymore, there is so much nonsense. It's a good thing I didn't have to grow up in china and listen to those pretend socialist commentaries. Don't see weapons, all I see is them going through all the past leaders and their major ideologies. Com'on, did Jiang Zemin do anything to deserve praise?

Actually it's far from nonsense. You have to think actively about precisely what the PRC official is saying and why he chooses those words. You have to look to subtle clues to find the substance behind the standard party rhetoric.

Here's a hint: China shows the world what its military capabilities are.... but what is China's intention now that it wields these capabilities. The parade is intended to give the world both answers.