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This is a discussion on Type 056 OPV/Corvette within the Navy forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by tphuang I don't profess to know exactly how they think, but they are still continually upgrading Type ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tphuang View Post
    I don't profess to know exactly how they think, but they are still continually upgrading Type 037 sub chasers at the moment. For example, a while ago, they put TAS on some of them. Up until now, PLAN relies on diesel submarines and sub chasers to do ASW missions since they have been extremely lacking in aerial assets. They are changing that in the coming years as they have more fixed wings and rotary ASW assets coming into service, but that takes time and experience.

    As I've said before, I believe 056's role is to replace Jianghu and Type 037. I would not judge 056 based on some CGs from magazines.
    I think the more likely explanation is that they are making due with what they have, including upgrading 037's. I mean look at Ludas and Jianghus, those things are still in service and they wouldn't last a day in a modern shooting war. Far more effective is sending helos or shooting long-range and fast-acting rocket-boosted torpedoes to an enemy sub's location. The PLAN is starting to develop this capability more, and until these systems fully mature, they will continue using Type 037's. But that is a far cry from believing in the doctrine of sub-chasing with depth charges. I would say that they tolerate the Type 037's more than they believe in their effectiveness in modern ASW ops. Which is why I do not believe the Type 056 has an ASW mission. I think this class is mostly for green water patrol and escort duties, drug interdiction, anti-piracy, etc. like most other OPV's/corvettes, especially those without helicopters.

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    Well it looks there is a warship under construction there, I do hope its not the OPV model we have seen before. If it is I hope it is better equipped. A hangar at least, even the Indian Kamorta class has a hangar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealordlawrence View Post
    Well it looks there is a warship under construction there, I do hope its not the OPV model we have seen before. If it is I hope it is better equipped. A hangar at least, even the Indian Kamorta class has a hangar.
    The Kamorta class is a 3,100 ton ASW Corvette with full-sized hanger, anti-torpedo decoys, and VLS SAM. In terms of cost and function, it exceeds the 056 simply because it's a much bigger, more expensive, and better armed ship.

    India launches its first anti-submarine corvette [newkerala.com, United States, 92358]

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    Quote Originally Posted by adeptitus View Post
    The Kamorta class is a 3,100 ton ASW Corvette with full-sized hanger, anti-torpedo decoys, and VLS SAM. In terms of cost and function, it exceeds the 056 simply because it's a much bigger, more expensive, and better armed ship.

    India launches its first anti-submarine corvette [newkerala.com, United States, 92358]
    My point exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealordlawrence View Post
    My point exactly.
    Your point would simply be build more 054s then? Since the Kamorta class is nearly double the displacement of the 056, they are only equal in the name "corvette" which in itself is a pretty loose definition. Or if the 056 is designated OPV, then the two ships would not even be in the same "class".

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshuatree View Post
    Your point would simply be build more 054s then?
    Got it in 2- good enough I suppose.

    China has plenty enough ocean patrol organisations as it is is without the PLAN getting involved and wasting their resources on a class of ships with limited utility.

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    I find myself in total agreement with sealordlawrence, though I would perhaps have started out on a more civil note. This is a ship type that will add nothing but additional hulls to the PLAN. Hopefully they will restrict themselves to four at Hong Kong and four at Ningde. At least they are better than the JIANGHU I’s they will reportedly replace in the latter locality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franco-russe View Post
    I find myself in total agreement with sealordlawrence, though I would perhaps have started out on a more civil note. This is a ship type that will add nothing but additional hulls to the PLAN. Hopefully they will restrict themselves to four at Hong Kong and four at Ningde. At least they are better than the JIANGHU I’s they will reportedly replace in the latter locality.
    And I'd bet you chaps would want members who live in Hong Kong to help to take pics when they inducted into HK garrison...y'know, the annual open-house on Labour Day is by ticket-only, and only issue to those who have HK ID card.

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    I think the PLAN needs a seaworthy, small (read cheap) enough but flexible AA + ASh + AS platform that has high speed. If the Type 56's speed can keep pace with the Type 22's then I think it would be fulfilling the OPV role nicely. Still would like to see a CIWS in addition to the RAM though, even if just an AK630.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanAsian View Post
    I think the PLAN needs a seaworthy, small (read cheap) enough but flexible AA + ASh + AS platform that has high speed. If the Type 56's speed can keep pace with the Type 22's then I think it would be fulfilling the OPV role nicely. Still would like to see a CIWS in addition to the RAM though, even if just an AK630.
    In that case, just built more Type 22. I seriously didn't see a need for this type of ship as was pointed out by some of the members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123 View Post
    In that case, just built more Type 22. I seriously didn't see a need for this type of ship as was pointed out by some of the members.
    How would the 022 fulfill the OPV role? It doesn't have the endurance, range, nor height for a proper sensor suite for that role.

    I guess many feel there is no role for the 056 as discussed here because other civilian agencies already have OPVs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    And I'd bet you chaps would want members who live in Hong Kong to help to take pics when they inducted into HK garrison...y'know, the annual open-house on Labour Day is by ticket-only, and only issue to those who have HK ID card.
    Next time when I am going back to HK, I would make sure it is the Labor Day.

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