Type 056 OPV/Corvette

Originally Posted by Franklin

Full view of 584 in Wuhan. And does anyone know anything about sea trials at this point ?

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So... they can actually sail those boats all the way from Wuhan into the ocean? That is one hell of a river. Is there any other shipyard that is located not by the coast?

Originally Posted by jackliu

So... they can actually sail those boats all the way from Wuhan into the ocean? That is one hell of a river. Is there any other shipyard that is located not by the coast?

Why not...ships are not that wide compare to rivers.

Originally Posted by jackliu

So... they can actually sail those boats all the way from Wuhan into the ocean? That is one hell of a river. Is there any other shipyard that is located not by the coast?

Yes, the Yangzi is a very big - and wide - river. If you take a look at the list of warship yards in the Chinese Shipbuilding Industry thread post # 139, you will see that Wuhu, Wuzhou and Liuzhou are all situated up-river. Wuhu could easily build Type 056, and so could no doubt Wuzhou, which recently built the trimaran diver support ship Bei Jiu 143.

Originally Posted by jackliu

So... they can actually sail those boats all the way from Wuhan into the ocean? That is one hell of a river. Is there any other shipyard that is located not by the coast?

I don't see why not, at ~1500 tons max displacement, the 056 isn't a very large ship. Wuhan sits at the intersection of the Han and Chang Jiang Rivers.

Originally Posted by joshuatree

I don't see why not, at ~1500 tons max displacement, the 056 isn't a very large ship. Wuhan sits at the intersection of the Han and Chang Jiang Rivers.

Can this ship yard build 10,000k displacement warships?

Originally Posted by jackliu

So... they can actually sail those boats all the way from Wuhan into the ocean? That is one hell of a river. Is there any other shipyard that is located not by the coast?

Onthe bank of Yangtze river, from Shanghai upwards towards Nanjing there are dozens of big ship yards on the banks building ocean going freighters.

Originally Posted by jackliu

Can this ship yard build 10,000k displacement warships?

Using the canal locks for the Three Gorges Dam as a reference, I think 10,000 would be the limit.

Originally Posted by joshuatree

Using the canal locks for the Three Gorges Dam as a reference, I think 10,000 would be the limit.

Good idea of using the lock limits as a guide. But we need to remember just how deep inland the Three Geoges Damn is. The further up river, the shallower and narrower the river, so if the river at the Three Gorges Damn can take 10,000k ships, the stretches of the river near the coast should be able to take far heavier ships.

Are you guys trying to see which shipyards might be able to construct the rumoured new 10,000k cruiser class? If so I think that shipyard infrastructure and the experience and skill of the workers would be the main limiting factors as opposed to the location of the yards.

Opps! Wrong thread.

Originally Posted by plawolf

Good idea of using the lock limits as a guide. But we need to remember just how deep inland the Three Geoges Damn is. The further up river, the shallower and narrower the river, so if the river at the Three Gorges Damn can take 10,000k ships, the stretches of the river near the coast should be able to take far heavier ships.

Are you guys trying to see which shipyards might be able to construct the rumoured new 10,000k cruiser class? If so I think that shipyard infrastructure and the experience and skill of the workers would be the main limiting factors as opposed to the location of the yards.

You're right, for some reason I thought Wuhan was upstream from the Three Gorges Dam when it's actually downstream.

Originally Posted by plawolf

Good idea of using the lock limits as a guide. But we need to remember just how deep inland the Three Geoges Damn is. The further up river, the shallower and narrower the river, so if the river at the Three Gorges Damn can take 10,000k ships, the stretches of the river near the coast should be able to take far heavier ships.

Are you guys trying to see which shipyards might be able to construct the rumoured new 10,000k cruiser class? If so I think that shipyard infrastructure and the experience and skill of the workers would be the main limiting factors as opposed to the location of the yards.

Not that, I just got a feeling that if a massive war broke out, those ship yards in Shanghai, Dailan and all coastal shipyard will get destroyed very quickly. So if China is able to construct the same ships way inland, they will have much higher chance of survival.

Originally Posted by jackliu

Not that, I just got a feeling that if a massive war broke out, those ship yards in Shanghai, Dailan and all coastal shipyard will get destroyed very quickly. So if China is able to construct the same ships way inland, they will have much higher chance of survival.

You're talking about a total war scenario with the US. Anything less than a total war will not see the US having the gall to attack civilian targets, even if they are dual use. And no other country could devastate China's infrastructure on that level. The chance of that kind of war happening, however, is close to zero. So why increase the costs of construction and transportation building from an inland port on that one in a million chance? Besides, I'm sure they already have contingency plans in place for every scenario, even this one, i.e. locations/depths already scoped out, what manpower/materials will need to be accumulated at a new site quickly, how to set up efficient transportation to that site, what kind of air defense planning needs to happen, etc.

Originally Posted by jackliu

Not that, I just got a feeling that if a massive war broke out, those ship yards in Shanghai, Dailan and all coastal shipyard will get destroyed very quickly. So if China is able to construct the same ships way inland, they will have much higher chance of survival.

I think if it already comes down to coastal shipyards being finished off you might as well stop building ocean going ships and redirect resources to other things.

Looks like the new ships are still using the current pennant number font scheme, that means the new style is still far from being approved.