Type 056 OPV/Corvette

Thanks. Yu Zheng 310 was the newbuild that entered service about the same time as DALANG class Yu Zheng 311 ex Nan Jiu 503, right?

Originally Posted by franco-russe

Thanks. Yu Zheng 310 was the newbuild that entered service about the same time as DALANG class Yu Zheng 311 ex Nan Jiu 503, right?

310 is about two years younger than 311, the latter was converted to FE use in 2008.

Originally Posted by i.e.

Happy Year of the Dragon.

Now Make 50 of these.

Newest from HP.056.jpg

That's the 8th 054A from HP shipyard.

I've been posting it's pictures on the 054A thread.

Originally Posted by tphuang

That's the 8th 054A from HP shipyard.

I've been posting it's pictures on the 054A thread.

Rub your eyes and look again.

All this thread is interesting but what do you thing about this :
Bata 1.jpgbata 2.jpg

Pictures taken in Guinea Equatorial in Malabo. Warship is named Bata.
I can recognize some chinese or russian weapons but I don't know which class is it ? Even if I think it's very close of new chinese warship like type 056... If anybody has an idea I will be glad. Good luck.

Originally Posted by i.e.

Happy Year of the Dragon.

Now Make 50 of these.

Newest from HP.056.jpg

Looks like they are making good progress on this at HP.

I wonder how many shipyards will end up building them?

why do Chinese ships sit so low, i mean the bridge, they dont tower as high as Western ships, even ships like Type 071 LPD have low bridges and dont have the height that other LPDs have?

just look at the bridge of Ticonderoga class cruisers, they are like a massive building!!! like a airport control tower, surely it gives better awareness and visability

Originally Posted by asif iqbal

why do Chinese ships sit so low, i mean the bridge, they dont tower as high as Western ships, even ships like Type 071 LPD have low bridges and dont have the height that other LPDs have?

just look at the bridge of Ticonderoga class cruisers, they are like a massive building!!! like a airport control tower, surely it gives better awareness and visability

Tincoderogas were designed in the late 70s, when stealth profiles relating to radar profiles were not as highly pursued. I'm sure some of it is attributed to this. Also, maybe such a tall format would make the Chinese ships too top heavy?

Chinese ships like the type 052c looks narrow-beamed compared to the likes of Arleigh-Burke, so balance may need to be considered(?)

edit: actually the bridge of type 052c is not that low.

Originally Posted by asif iqbal

why do Chinese ships sit so low, i mean the bridge, they dont tower as high as Western ships, even ships like Type 071 LPD have low bridges and dont have the height that other LPDs have?

just look at the bridge of Ticonderoga class cruisers, they are like a massive building!!! like a airport control tower, surely it gives better awareness and visability

Because chineses are small, may be ?

Originally Posted by Exocet29

Because chineses are small, may be ?

Could this count as stereotyping?

Originally Posted by victtodd

Could this count as stereotyping?

Just a joke.

Originally Posted by no_name

Chinese ships like the type 052c looks narrow-beamed compared to the likes of Arleigh-Burke, so balance may need to be considered(?)

edit: actually the bridge of type 052c is not that low.

052C and B (and all airdefence destroyers) has top extensive and heavy arrays mounted on top. which is destabilizing. this demands a deep keel and wide beam
requirement also demand a top speed number at loads.
If you read some of the stuff Mr Pan Jingfu wrote, he mentioned some of the constraints. namely propulsion.
The most powerful propulsion mature set with out steam turbine available in forseenable future is the 2+2 CODOG set they are using now. this puts a pretty firm upper limits on displacement.

given a limted displacement, the only thing they can do is 1) given a minimum acceptable beam, work on the hull form to reduce hullform drag to hit that top speed requirement 2) active stabilizer fins. which they already have.

some people rumor that 052C has lead ballasts too, which I don't believe they use.

btw he also mentioned the original 052 pair he had some 2nd thoughts on placement of the front pair type 073A 37mm guns. to get a good firing arch for these guns, they had to be raised over HHQ-7 set, which future drove a higher bridge. which exacerbated top weight problem. He questioned was it worth it to trade so much for a clear frontal fire arch for the secondary guns.
pretty interesting stuff.

on the 052 refit they finally took those guns down, a good choice.

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Originally Posted by asif iqbal

why do Chinese ships sit so low, i mean the bridge, they dont tower as high as Western ships, even ships like Type 071 LPD have low bridges and dont have the height that other LPDs have?

just look at the bridge of Ticonderoga class cruisers, they are like a massive building!!! like a airport control tower, surely it gives better awareness and visability

Seems they prefer high freeboard over tall bridge. imho a good choice as your windowed navigation bridge is no longer the eyes to the captain.

Tics are a half solution.
Spurance hull streched to the limit.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Head

Looks like they are making good progress on this at HP.

I wonder how many shipyards will end up building them?

Look at the relative size between the 054A in the front and the tiny 056 in the back.

this thing can not be something like 2000 tons, at max 1500 tons. clearly more of a replacement for 037series sub hunters. which makes sense. my bet is 1000 tons full displacement max.

if we take 037 series build as guide, at one point yards up down yangtze river and nook and cranys on the coastal china was building them.

also according to some there should be 2 type of 056, a "expensive" ASW version and a "cheaper" patrol. I donno if that;s mentioned here.