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This is a discussion on Type 052 (Luhu Class) within the Navy forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by ChinaGuy The seas in the north are well demarcated. China do not believe threats are greater in ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaGuy View Post
    The seas in the north are well demarcated. China do not believe threats are greater in the North. Lack of water or other types of cannon fire at Chinese ships bears that out. The Chinese ships do use international waters, although on occasion they may drift towards the boundaries, possibly because of sea conditions, or possibly to reciprocate their own boundaries being violated. The Chinese policy has always been, since Mao's days, that don't mess with us and we don't mess with you; Mess with us, and we assuredly will mess with you. I can't remember if that policy was directly derived from Mao's little red book.
    Most of the policies and attributes of the PLA are almost certainly derived from your own little red book than from any source out there in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterre View Post
    Most of the policies and attributes of the PLA are almost certainly derived from your own little red book than from any source out there in the real world.
    Unfortunately, "being a 5-cent gang" is not enough ground to boot him, unless the mods have different ideas. The price of free speech is that we've to tolerate senseless crap from time to time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    Unfortunately, "being a 5-cent gang" is not enough ground to boot him, unless the mods have different ideas. The price of free speech is that we've to tolerate senseless crap from time to time.
    You can make fun of him, but please stop with the 5-cent crap, everyone of us have probably been accused of that posting in other forums, please don't bring it here.
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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    from "Shipborn Weapons Magazine"



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    The 052D schematic can't be right. The rear VLS modules can't penetrate 4 full decks because the 4th deck is the engine room.

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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    Here's another version.


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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterre View Post
    The 052D schematic can't be right. The rear VLS modules can't penetrate 4 full decks because the 4th deck is the engine room.
    It seems to me that below the VLS modules is not the engine room / one of the engine rooms (?) but just the propellor shafts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delft View Post
    It seems to me that below the VLS modules is not the engine room / one of the engine rooms (?) but just the propellor shafts.
    That drawing was made in order to accommodate a 4-deck high VLS which is unnecessary. The position of the GT and diesel engines would also be a little higher than the very bottom of the ship because the very bottom has spaces for bunker fuel. This would also mean that the props should be entering the ship at a higher angle than what is depicted, and would be blocked by the bottom of the rear VLS modules. Those modules should actually be terminating at the waterline (red line) or just below it, not an entire deck below it.

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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterre View Post
    The 052D schematic can't be right. The rear VLS modules can't penetrate 4 full decks because the 4th deck is the engine room.
    The positioning of the FL3000 launcher is also wrong. On the 052D, the FL3000 is at the front of the hanger, not the rear as was the case with the 052C's Type 730, this arrangement should allow more than enough space for an automated reloader to be installed at the front of the hanger without adversely affecting the hanger's normal operations.

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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    Quote Originally Posted by escobar View Post
    D1

    Really hope top see more pictures of the Type 052D soon...particularly more showing the entiore vessel and closer up photos of the after portions of the ship.

    I'd like to verufy once and for all that there is an HQ-10 launcher aft.
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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

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    Nice, thanks for that pic.

    still waiting for more detail on the after portions of the vessel to get a clearer look at the aft VLS area and the HQ-10 launcher.

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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    The main gun seems to have turned sideways in that pic compared to the previous one.
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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    052C VLS









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    Re: Type 052 (Luhu Class)

    I found a R&D doc (dated back to february 1994 from 724th institute) talking about Ship-based Multifunction PAR and MMIC T/R Modules. The researchers advocated the choice of S-band, saying one face with 3000 T/R modules (average power of 10W for each one) could detect a target with a RCS of 0.008mē 147km away. They also advised to initiate studies and the development of solid state and GaAs T/R modules.
    I think that 14th Institute followed these recommendations in the development of the H/LJG-346 (052C radar).



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