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Old 01-06-2010   #556
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Mauritius is a bit far, Seychelles and Kenya are nearer to recent pirate attacks and would be better choice. A low key suply + basic repair facility should be just right. There shall be no permanent attachment of ships and personnel.

It need not be a fenced up base guarded by PLAN, just an agreement for PLAN to to have the right to dock for supply and repair at existing or upgraded port (with Chinese help).
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

A Supply base is not much use if it itself is hard to keep supplied. Gwadar is perfect for this purpose as it has direct land links to the PRC and serves as a perfect outlet and inlet into the Indian Ocean, which is afterall why the PRC built the bl**dy thing in the first place. Using Gwadar also consolidates utility, which is of course cost effective.

A further development would be for a base at somewhere in Sudan (Port Sudan my best guess) as China already has energy interests here and such a base would enable the PLAN to build a steady presence, throughout the Red Sea, Aden, Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean areas.

This is especially true if China feels its commercial and supply shipping could be further threatened by an enhanced potentially hostile Western Military presence based in Yemen, in the near future.
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The picture taken on Jan. 22, 2010 shows "Maanshan" Warship convoys Chinese merchant ships in the Gulf of Aden. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Hu Jia)


Chinese navy soldiers check a doubtable yacht in the Gulf of Aden, on Jan. 22, 2010. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Yang Zhigang)


Chinese navy soldiers check a doubtable yacht in the Gulf of Aden, on Jan. 22, 2010. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Yang Zhigang)


The picture taken on Jan. 22, 2010 shows "Maanshan" Warship convoying Chinese ships in the Gulf of Aden. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Hu Jia)
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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

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http://i46.tinypic.com/jzwhmr.jpg

The picture taken on Jan. 22, 2010 shows "Maanshan" Warship convoys Chinese merchant ships in the Gulf of Aden. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Hu Jia)

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ezr3wp.jpg
Chinese navy soldiers check a doubtable yacht in the Gulf of Aden, on Jan. 22, 2010. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Yang Zhigang)

http://i49.tinypic.com/1rev6p.jpg
Chinese navy soldiers check a doubtable yacht in the Gulf of Aden, on Jan. 22, 2010. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Yang Zhigang)

http://i45.tinypic.com/2dv7whu.jpg
The picture taken on Jan. 22, 2010 shows "Maanshan" Warship convoying Chinese ships in the Gulf of Aden. The frigate is on an escort mission as part of a Chinese naval flotilla. (Xinhua/Hu Jia)
Popeye, I have put together an entire page about the PLAN Anti-Piracy mission.

THE CHINESE NAVY (PLAN) ANTI-PIRACY MISSION OFF SOMALIA

Let me know what you think.
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Popeye, I have put together an entire page about the PLAN Anti-Piracy mission.

THE CHINESE NAVY (PLAN) ANTI-PIRACY MISSION OFF SOMALIA

Let me know what you think.
My friend, China has been sending a third frigate, Chowhu (054A 568) from South Sea Fleet to go to Somali with the three ships from East Sea Fleet. So, there are four ships in the 4th Flotilla.
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My friend, China has been sending a third frigate, Chowhu (054A 568) from South Sea Fleet to go to Somali with the three ships from East Sea Fleet. So, there are four ships in the 4th Flotilla.
Thank you, noted and corrected on the site:

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Popeye, I have put together an entire page about the PLAN Anti-Piracy mission.

THE CHINESE NAVY (PLAN) ANTI-PIRACY MISSION OFF SOMALIA

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Look great, very informative. Thank you for putting it together, I didn't even know the third flotilla did such a short stint compared to the other flotillas.
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Can you believe this? Some danish special Ops got onto a ship and found NO pirates what-so-ever and this became head-line news. And also check out the title of the article. Boy, talking about misleading... This is what I call "a blind cat catching a dead mouse"...

Danish forces free ship captured by pirates - Yahoo! News

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

I have a general question. Why don't nations set up some kind of ambush op? What I mean is some Special Ops can stay and hide in some ships all the way through the Gulf of Aden. IF the ship got hit by pirates, these soldiers would come out with guns blazing. And they should do this a couple time and picking ships only randomly. This might make the pirates think twice of hitting ships because they would have no clue which ship might have an ambush waiting for them.

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Popeye, I have put together an entire page about the PLAN Anti-Piracy mission.

THE CHINESE NAVY (PLAN) ANTI-PIRACY MISSION OFF SOMALIA

Let me know what you think.
I believe DeXinHai hijacking happened in 2009.
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I have a general question. Why don't nations set up some kind of ambush op? What I mean is some Special Ops can stay and hide in some ships all the way through the Gulf of Aden. IF the ship got hit by pirates, these soldiers would come out with guns blazing. And they should do this a couple time and picking ships only randomly. This might make the pirates think twice of hitting ships because they would have no clue which ship might have an ambush waiting for them.

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Too many ships?

Too many pirates?

Some pirates have moved into areas not normally patrolled beyond the Gulf of Aden. It would be just easier to arm the crew but they haven't because for one thing it's not like these ships are loaded with people that can stand watch 24/7. Once pirates get on board anyone held at gunpoint complicates the situation many times over. Soldiers or not... what happens when the pirates make demands while holding hostages?
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I believe DeXinHai hijacking happened in 2009.
You are exactly right and I have updated the site accordingly.
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It's because insurance companies won't cover it anymore once you have arms on board. Oh yeah, the insurance companies are loving it because they could charge more on premiums now without actually paying out too much.



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Too many ships?

Too many pirates?

Some pirates have moved into areas not normally patrolled beyond the Gulf of Aden. It would be just easier to arm the crew but they haven't because for one thing it's not like these ships are loaded with people that can stand watch 24/7. Once pirates get on board anyone held at gunpoint complicates the situation many times over. Soldiers or not... what happens when the pirates make demands while holding hostages?
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the 5th flotilla is going to Somalia. 168 and 887 is going there to join 568 which is already there.
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