PLAN submarines Thread II

[delft]

PRC is NOT a member of the MTCR. PRC has said it'll abide by some of the guidelines. It seems PRC wanted to join but MTCR members had not offered it. Plus, neither India nor Pakistan are members.

Link - MTCR Partners
Link - Wiki

But don't forget the US sold Tomahawks to the UK in 1995, as well as Trident D5 SLBM before that. MTCR more of a partnership than a signed treaties like NPT, CTBT etc.

I understood the Tridents were not sold to the UK but leased.

[Hyperwarp]

I understood the Tridents were not sold to the UK but leased.

Correct.
Leased & not sold - Link (But gives further details)

[tanlixiang28776]

I understood the Tridents were not sold to the UK but leased.

Well then we should lease some nuclear capable cruise missiles to Pakistan as well. Only following a precedent

[bd popeye]

Improved Yuan Class(039B) which was speculated to feature with new sonar and weapon system entered PLAN service. Courtsey of ASAT at mp.net

I'm not responsible for the drawings on the conning tower!

[no_name]

LMAO it says no CD and Pinkov.

[Red___Sword]

LMAO it says no CD and Pinkov.

"... is allowed."... - NO CD AND pinkov IS ALLOWED (to use this pic)

Seriously, any self-claim-creditable news agency / columnists who quotes anything pinkov claims, should have their eyes surgicaled. (which unfortunately, happens a lot) - you (the abovementioned news agencies) didn't saw which toilet pinkov's credit sits?

[no_name]

It says Pinkov jin yon, which means not allowed to use.

[Red___Sword]

It says Pinkov jin yon, which means not allowed to use.

Right. I said No ... is allowed...

I just pointing out your #1116 post reads odd, if you don't have the "... is allowed" part.

Many big shrimps got similar watermarks on their pics, rival forums most of times.

[kroko]

Improved Yuan Class(039B) which was speculated to feature with new sonar and weapon system entered PLAN service. Courtsey of ASAT at mp.net

Has anyone heard any confirmation that this is a new SSK instead of a new SLBM test platform (SSB) ? this thing has a big tower for such a small hull

[no_name]

The tower has at least one side door near the base connection with the main hull, is that any other sub that have this config? Is it designed to be water tight? I'm wondering if they even decided it's ok to have portions of the tower not water tight.

[kroko]

there is a large detachable segment of the tower. I wonder what it is. Escape pod ? SLBM hatch ?

[Quickie]

The tower has at least one side door near the base connection with the main hull, is that any other sub that have this config? Is it designed to be water tight? I'm wondering if they even decided it's ok to have portions of the tower not water tight.

A doorway to a compression/decompressiom chamber that allows divers to embark or disembark the submarine underwater?

[plawolf]

A doorway to a compression/decompressiom chamber that allows divers to embark or disembark the submarine underwater?

You don't need a hyperbaric chamber unless you plan on diving at below 50 meters. There are not many situations where you need divers out at that kind of depth, certainly not often enough to justify designing a sub especially for it.

Normally subs can sent and recover divers using the torpedo tubes or airlocks when submerged, there is no need for a custom made chamber to facilitate this.

I am also not too convinced by the SLBM testbed theory. If they are doing that, why mess around with a fancy new hinged opening device when they could have just lifted a JL2 silo or two straight off of the 094 and built the sail around that?

With an opening that big, you would expect them to want to launch something pretty big underwater, or lots of little things.

I have heard that all PLAN subs can be equipped with mine belts for long-range underwater mine laying, but has never seen one (if anyone has a picture or diagram, I would be most appreciative), but I would bet such mine belts would add a lot of drag and potentially also noise if the sub was moving fast.

The PLAN takes offensive mine warfare very seriously, and I would go as far as to say that it would be one of the primary tactics the PLAN might employ using its subs at the start of a major conflict. If I were to guess, I might wonder if this might be an underwater mine laying submarine, to allow the PLAN to more reliable and quickly deploy mines offensively a long war from home without being detected.

The other guess might be that it is a large airlock, but not a hyperbaric chamber, to allow special forces to deploy from subs with mini-submersibles similar to how the US SEALS operate. But that is far less likely in my view.

[no_name]

PLAdaily confirmed that the recent drill conducted in eastern pacific past okinawa island chain includes anti-air and anti-submarine operations. I think they are starting to take blue water anti-submarine operations seriously.

[SinoSoldier]

Photos of PLA Navy Special Forces deploying from a submarine:






Unlike American submarines, Chinese submarines incorporate the cabin directly into their submarine instead of installing a capsule on top of it.