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PLAN Carrier Operations..News, Videos & Photos

This is a discussion on PLAN Carrier Operations..News, Videos & Photos within the Navy forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by Jeff Head Hendrick, this report is...I am sorry...just full of hooey. Helos may land and take off, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Head View Post
    Hendrick, this report is...I am sorry...just full of hooey.

    Helos may land and take off, but he talks about arrestor cables so he must mean fixed wing aircraft. The J-15s are not ready yet, or embarked.

    Other fixed wing aircraft are not going to land because the arrestor system was not installed...so they cannot stop.

    He talks about catapaults. There are none on this vessel.

    I am sure they are going to be testing navigation, engines, communications, sensors, etc., etc. machinary, various systems from water to ventillation. Lots and lots to test.

    They may be out some time.

    And, helos may certainly land and take off. But no cats and no traps and no fixed wing aircraft.

    ...and that picture alone does not say anything about the engines. It shows no wake and no bow wave.

    I do not doubt that she can make her own way...and that picture is a pretty pic...but it does not really show the vessel underway...it shows the tug back away from it is all.
    They did install the cable arrestor We have good picture of the arrestor during construction.

    They definitely can do touch and go. J15 has been in small production batches. We seen at least 3 or 4 of them .

    Plus nobody take picture of J 15 anymore because the guy who climb the wall was invited for tea

    As to the analyst He is not just anybody. He was former navy commander , Maybe he exaggerate a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik_2000 View Post
    Plus nobody take picture of J 15 anymore because the guy who climb the wall was invited for tea
    Did he come back?

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    new pics at CDF by GT, first aerial view of ex-Varyag sea trial on sea

    popeye sir, not distrusting your views on this matter, but there was a not so pleasant hat eating somewhere before, i hope we all not go this way for the discussions
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    .. sadly with that "/%)&$)?/(&%/" logo !
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    Quote Originally Posted by bd popeye View Post
    Those articles have some serious mis-nomers.

    1) There's no catapults on the ship that I and many others are aware of.
    2) The US Navy test catapults in-port daily by firing what is refereed to a no loads..
    3) If any landings other than a helo is made I'll eat my hat..with no salt.
    4) Arresting gear can also be tested in -port with the use of a tow tractor. However I see no arresting gear on the flight deck of the PLAN CV.
    5) The ship will not deploy next year unless China has some magic formula to train the crew. If it does I'll eat two hats..with no salt.
    6) In actuality the US has 20 carriers if you count the the 9 LHD/LHAs in commission. Ships that all other nations would call CVs..
    I do hope you will keep your words Popeye :-) ... I think you are just being plainly stu*** ... you wouldn't gain anything .. and you have everything to lose by eating your hat without salt to prove you are right/expert ?

    Tell me what the taste of your hat without salt ? will you cook it with pepper ? .. perhaps in a couple of weeks
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    same marking except...

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    i think the first priority off the ship is to first test its systems like they do with all navy vessals, landing and recovering aircraft is like asking someone to run before they can walk

    yes its a carrier and launching aircraft is its primary mission but give it a chance to grow, its only 2nd sea trial they probably havnt even tested the systems on it yet and we are talking of touch and gos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik_2000 View Post
    They did install the cable arrestor We have good picture of the arrestor during construction.

    They definitely can do touch and go. J15 has been in small production batches. We seen at least 3 or 4 of them .

    Plus nobody take picture of J 15 anymore because the guy who climb the wall was invited for tea

    As to the analyst He is not just anybody. He was former navy commander , Maybe he exaggerate a bit
    Well, no cables were seen on deck when she left. We shall just have to see.

    If they are going to use their 3-4 J-15s in this manner at this stage I would be very surprised. As I said before, there is a lot more basic stuff to test yet. More power to them if they can and I will look forward to the pics if they do.

    As to exagerate...no doubt. He's acting more like a PR rep than a naval analyst though.

    If they do some touch and goes...or even some traps (which I still doubt highly) then I look forward to seeing the pics of it happening. That will be a big step forward for the PLAN and will send a strong message about their carrier progress.

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    new pics at CDF by GT, first aerial view of ex-Varyag sea trial on sea
    Nice pics...wish we had high res of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paintgun View Post
    same marking except...

    This is Ulyanovsk: three elevators (extra portside aft), twosteam catapults on the angled deck and no funnel indicating nuclear power. All are logical next steps in the design evolution, we'll have to wait and see if the Chinese follow this path...
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    You're correct! I wish you read Chinese Obi, the title does translate "Ulyanovsk".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obi Wan Russell View Post
    This is Ulyanovsk: three elevators (extra portside aft), twosteam catapults on the angled deck and no funnel indicating nuclear power. All are logical next steps in the design evolution, we'll have to wait and see if the Chinese follow this path...
    I think ultimately they will...but I also believe that the next carrier...the 1st indegenous carrier, will be a lot like the Varyag. It will give them more experience at that level and will give them something to work with from a maintenance and operational standpoint to allow them to better utilize this level of technology.

    Then I expect that after that they may try to move forward with some innovation...perhaps two waist cats and other changes to the initial design...probably ending up with a couple of those too. Nuclear power may wait longer, IMHO, we shall just have to wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antiterror13 View Post
    I do hope you will keep your words Popeye :-) ... I think you are just being plainly stu*** ... you wouldn't gain anything .. and you have everything to lose by eating your hat without salt to prove you are right/expert ?

    Tell me what the taste of your hat without salt ? will you cook it with pepper ? .. perhaps in a couple of weeks
    I'll make soup out of it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBird View Post
    You're correct! I wish you read Chinese Obi, the title does translate "Ulyanovsk".
    He read 1143.7, if he didn't recognize the picture.

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    I'd love to be able to read chinese, as it is my grasp of foreign languages is limited to being able to swear in German and insult people in French!
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