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    Re: Latest PLAN Aircraft Carrier Info & Photos

    Four different paint schemes of the Varyag.

    On some the white line is extended to the end (I think it was originally marking the end of the 4th arrest wire)
    On some the helo landing mark is white and some yellow.

    Can't seems to tell difference between 2nd and 3rd pics though.








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    Quote Originally Posted by bd popeye View Post
    Roger ball... you had to be there....You don't wanna hear "Bolter! Bolter!"..that means he missed the wire.
    N-o doubt about that, those high sink appoaches are hairy looking, kind of like those dirt strips in vietnam, only back to full throttle in case you do miss the wire. Bd on a wild guess, what percentage of approaches would end in a bolter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lcloo View Post
    China's Russian-built Sukhoi Su-33MKKs are reportedly carrier capable, but only J-15 prototypes have been seen flying off the carrier's deck.
    Wait! Did we miss something about J-15s "flying off the carrier's deck?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    Wait! Did we miss something about J-15s "flying off the carrier's deck?"
    Nope, just standard western media journalism, move along, nothing to see here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Air Force Brat View Post
    N-o doubt about that, those high sink appoaches are hairy looking, kind of like those dirt strips in vietnam, only back to full throttle in case you do miss the wire. Bd on a wild guess, what percentage of approaches would end in a bolter?
    At night it's very high..I'd say about 30%..in the day time about 10%..Of course if a lot of "Nuggets" are flying around it shall be a long day on that roof.
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    American naval aviators prepare for future carrier-based operations by training on the T-45 Goshawk. I wonder will the Chinese follow a similar route and use an aircraft with benign handling characteristics to learn carrier procedures. Crawl - walk - run. The J-15 may be a bit much for a pilot trying to learn how to land on a pitching, moving carrier deck







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    The Russians used the SU-25 as an interim carrier trainer. China would be wise to do the same. That is if they want to save aircraft and pilots lives







    Maybe the Chinese will go this route. It would be the smart thing to do

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    it never ever cease to amaze me that a very small group of individuals (us) know far more about this topic than the very journalist with $$$, equipment, staff and research capital writing to potentially millions of readers!!!!
    Kinda scary when the masses know not only so very little but are actually often times fed innacurate 'facts'. I'm sure this happens to 90% of news reporting out there. We're no affected because we are diligent and unbiased but what about on other topics where we aren't 'experts' in and get most of out info from so call journalists and newspaper reporters?? Yikes!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NikeX View Post
    Maybe the Chinese will go this route. It would be the smart thing to do

    The chinese are going with this route to train their future carrier aviators.

    Whether the first plane to land on varyag is a JL-9H or J-15 will be a whole other matter however.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, is the JL-9 shorter than the standard J-7?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bltizo View Post
    The chinese are going with this route to train their future carrier aviators.

    Whether the first plane to land on varyag is a JL-9H or J-15 will be a whole other matter however.
    What kind of aircraft did Chinese pilots trained with on Brazil's carrier? PLAN might want to buy some because some of their pilots have deck time with them already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    What kind of aircraft did Chinese pilots trained with on Brazil's carrier? PLAN might want to buy some because some of their pilots have deck time with them already.
    I think, it is better to use experienced Brasilian pilots as "coach" (not instructor, because the will not get the flying skills of year-long J-15 flying Chinese pilots) on J-15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    What kind of aircraft did Chinese pilots trained with on Brazil's carrier? PLAN might want to buy some because some of their pilots have deck time with them already.
    Brazilian Navy operate A-4 Sky Hawk on their aircraft carrier, a Vietnam war era attack jet, but their airforce has nice Super Tucano prop engine trainer and AMX jet which can be used as advance jet trainer.

    China Navy could use the new Sino-Russia joint venture CJ-7 basic trainer, then K-8 intermediate jet trainer on land bases if they decided to be independent of PLAAF's training facilities, then JL-7H and/or L-15 on carrier deck and finally on J-15.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lcloo View Post
    ... , then JL-7H and/or L-15 on carrier deck and finally on J-15.
    J-15 is better as a single-engine trainer, esp. in the dangerous starting phase (engine break)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwaigonegin View Post
    it never ever cease to amaze me that a very small group of individuals (us) know far more about this topic than the very journalist with $$$, equipment, staff and research capital writing to potentially millions of readers!!!!
    Kinda scary when the masses know not only so very little but are actually often times fed innacurate 'facts'. I'm sure this happens to 90% of news reporting out there. We're no affected because we are diligent and unbiased but what about on other topics where we aren't 'experts' in and get most of out info from so call journalists and newspaper reporters?? Yikes!!!
    I remember listening to a BBC farming program one Sunday morning about fifteen years ago pretending to be breakfast conversation in this case with the then farming minister in the UK cabinet John Gummer who told us listeners that he believed everything he read in the papers except where it concerned British farming. There he knew it was all nonsense.
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