PLAN Carrier Operations..News, Videos & Photos

Originally Posted by bd popeye

that fuel truck intrigues me.. Three reasons it would be on deck.

1) To refuel aircraft i.e. helicopters perhaps??

2) There is no fuel delivery system on the ship as on USN CVs. If this is true this will substantially slowdown sortie rates.

3) The fuel delivery system is not operational at this time.

Note to the PLAN.. quit being so secretive about whats going on aboard the PLAN CV. carrier operations are no secret. Period!

I'm inclined to believe 1 & 3, with 3 maybe being because they haven't gotten to testing that system yet or perhaps they rather not have that much fuel on board with minimal crew - lack of manpower to fight a ship fire should an accident occur.

Does the Kuneztov have a fuel delivery system? Or does the original design (of the ex-Varyag) included a fuel delivery system?

Originally Posted by bd popeye

that fuel truck intrigues me.. Three reasons it would be on deck.

1) To refuel aircraft i.e. helicopters perhaps??

2) There is no fuel delivery system on the ship as on USN CVs. If this is true this will substantially slowdown sortie rates.

3) The fuel delivery system is not operational at this time.

Note to the PLAN.. quit being so secretive about whats going on aboard the PLAN CV. carrier operations are no secret. Period!

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There is fuel delivery system. Here is the proof.

Deck.jpg

See the purple shirt and blue shirt walk the deck ??

Pope eye know what purple shirt mean ! Fuel handler!

Originally Posted by Jovian

Does the Kuneztov have a fuel delivery system? Or does the original design (of the ex-Varyag) included a fuel delivery system?

Yes, Kuneztov has fuel delivery system ! So does Varyag, and Varyag is more advanced than Kuneztov !

Originally Posted by AeroEngineer

Yes, Kuneztov has fuel delivery system ! So does Varyag, and Varyag is more advanced than Kuneztov !

Until the CCTV do a special on the ex-Varyag, we can never really tell how much more advanced she is compare with her sister...

Still, having the fuel truck could be due to the tempo of the flight ops (if there's any beyond helicopter ops) is not enough to use the fuel reservoir onboard, and/or the system's test schedule is at later times.

I am inclined to think that if no flight operation is scheduled for the next 3 or 6 months, it is wise not to store volatile fuel onboard, more-over, the fuel storage and delivery system may be still untested, and fuel management personnel not fully trianed as yet, thus the risk of accidental fire break-out should be avoided. Thus the fuel truck with just small enough amount of fuel for a few helicopter flights ferrying people to and from shore, perhaps?

Originally Posted by AeroEngineer

Yes, Kuneztov has fuel delivery system ! So does Varyag, and Varyag is more advanced than Kuneztov !

yeah, PLAN went through all the trouble getting matching shirts but not an actual fuel system.

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Originally Posted by MwRYum

Until the CCTV do a special on the ex-Varyag, we can never really tell how much more advanced she is compare with her sister...

Still, having the fuel truck could be due to the tempo of the flight ops (if there's any beyond helicopter ops) is not enough to use the fuel reservoir onboard, and/or the system's test schedule is at later times.

they are not going for max load take off runs, I bet the first ones will be very lightly loaded. so there is no need to fill up on board. worst case scenario needs a topoff.

Originally Posted by AeroEngineer

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There is fuel delivery system. Here is the proof.

Deck.jpg

See the purple shirt and blue shirt walk the deck ??

Pope eye know what purple shirt mean ! Fuel handler!

Other colored shirts are missing. No white, green, red, brown, or more importantly yellow. Can you speculate on what that means?

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The Russians launch their aircraft from the Pri-Fly station above the deck. Note the sailor at the back of the picture with his thumb on the launch button. Can anyone speculate on how the Chinese will launch aircraft?




When the shooter presses the launch button the hold-back chocks retract and the aircraft accelerates down the deck. Any information on if China will continue to use this system?

What is more supposable for an aircraft carrier? a fuel delivery system or no fuel delivery system?

The glorious Russian carrier aviation: *clickme*

Aircraft with wings folded tied down on a crowded flight deck, fire fighting equipment especially build for the flight deck, alpha-strikes departing like a swarm of angry bees ...

Will we expect the same milling mass on exVaryag soon?

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This scenario I would expect for a couple of dockyard trials in the next months: *clickme*

One or two aircraft and a helicopter, arriving from land, performing some traffic pattern, perhaps a full stop landing and then departing back to the field on the mainland.

[/COLOR]This scenario I would expect for a couple of dockyard trials in the next months: *clickme*

One or two aircraft and a helicopter, arriving from land, performing some traffic pattern, perhaps a full stop landing and then departing back to the field on the mainland.[/QUOTE]

Very cool video Intrepid, The pilot looks a little PO'd at one point.

Originally Posted by AeroEngineer

Yes, Kuneztov has fuel delivery system ! So does Varyag, and Varyag is more advanced than Kuneztov !

Just asking if the original design has a fuel delivery system. At no point am I interested in comparing the ex-Varyag with her sister. There's not need for that kind of defensiveness.

Ps. not going to debate which ship is more "advance".

Where did the information come from that the ex-Varyag has left port again on 7 may ? I cannot find any other information on it on the net. We are the only ones that seems to have this information.

Very nice photo of ex-varyag.

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