The Luda: Start to finish....

4. A Luda with 8 YJ-8s and auto 37mm AAA:

hi,

try the link above. It contains many information about all versions buit of the Type 051 Luda Class Missile Destroyer.

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/luda051.asp

According to SinoDefence.com Web site this is the list of the Variants:

Type 051 (Luda-I): The basic variant, including Xi’an (106), Yinchuan (107), Xining (108), Kaifeng (109), Nanjing (131), Chongqing (133), Zunyi (134), Changsha (161), Nanning (162), Nanchang (163), and Guilin (164).

Type 051 Command Variant (Luda): This variant has a slightly larger superstructure to accommodate an air defence C3I centre, as well as a ZJK-1 combat data system and Type 381A (NATO code-name: Rice Shield, similar to the Hughes SPS-39A) 3-D long-range air search radar. Used as fleet air defence command ship before the mid-1990s, these ships include Dalian (110) and Heifei (132).

Type 051 with helicopter hanger (Luda-II): First of class Jinan (105) was converted in 1987 be fitted with a flight deck and a hanger to accommodate two Harbin Z-9C helicopters. The ship had its aft twin-130mm main gun and dual-57mm AAA guns removed to give space for the hanger and flight deck. The ship is also said to be fitted with an ASW C3I centre.

Type 051G (Luda-III): This variant was originally developed as Type 051S to be fitted with British-made weapon systems. After the project was cancelled, the hulls were built under the Type 051 command variant standard. The first ship Zhanjiang (165) was fitted with new C3I and sensors, but with old weapon systems. The second ship Zhuhai (166) was fitted with upgraded weapon systems including 8 YJ-8 (C-801) anti-ship missiles and twin-37mm automatic AAA guns. Both ships have received the modernisation refit in 2004.

Type 051 modernisation refit: The PLA Navy experimentally fitted the French-made Crotale air-defence missile system and the Castor-II fire-control radar on two Type 051 destroyers Xi’an (106) and Kaifeng (109) in 1991. In 1999 Kaifeng (109) received a mid-life modernisation refit with the original HY-2 six missiles replaced by 16 YJ-83 (C-803) anti-ship missiles. The original 37mm and 57mm manual AAA guns were also replaced by four automatic Type 76A AAA guns. A further two ships Dalian (110) and Zhanjiang (165) received similar refit between 2003 and 2005.



Ayala

Luda and Luhu compared:

Charting the design progression further, here's the 'ultimate' Luda upgrade (note the main guns), the Luhu post-refit (basically increased the number of SSMs) and finally the Luhai class:

The scaling is pretty damn close... I was expecting the Luhai to be wayyy bigger than the Luda...

Having drawn the Luhai, the Luzhou (Type-51C) was an easy change of kit:

Luyang class DDG

Is this that the 2 Luda III Type 051 G1/2 Zhanjiang (165), Zhuhai (166) and 2 Luda IV Type 051 DT Kaifeng (109), Dalian (110) are all now equipped after modernization with 16 * C-803 anti-ship missiles and laucher SAM HQ-7 ?

Yes.

165 and 166 also got new Type 99 twin 100-mm turrets in 2003, replacing the 130 mm turrets.

Originally Posted by Ayala

hi,

Type 051 Command Variant (Luda): This variant has a slightly larger superstructure to accommodate an air defence C3I centre, as well as a ZJK-1 combat data system and Type 381A (NATO code-name: Rice Shield, similar to the Hughes SPS-39A) 3-D long-range air search radar. Used as fleet air defence command ship before the mid-1990s, these ships include Dalian (110) and Heifei (132

Slightly OT, but I'll bet as the PLA's modernization programs continue, disperaging code names such as "Rice Shield," "Rice Lamp," and "Rice Screen" will go the way of the dinosaurs.

Originally Posted by planeman

Please help me try to track the progressive improvements and upgrades of the Luda Class DDG, in terms of major weapons system changes. So far I have illustrated:

1. Basic Luda I DDG, original fit:


2. Luda I with twin helicopter hanger replacing rear turret - how many were upgrading in this way?


3. Luda upgraded with 16 x YJ-83, Crotale and automatic 37mm AAA:


I know that there are various other fits such as only 8 YJ-8s in angled positions and different main guns.

Nice thread.

I have a few good pictures and specs on a Luda Page I created here:

Luda Class DDGs of the PLAN

Originally Posted by planeman

Charting the design progression further, here's the 'ultimate' Luda upgrade (note the main guns), the Luhu post-refit (basically increased the number of SSMs) and finally the Luhai class:

The scaling is pretty damn close... I was expecting the Luhai to be wayyy bigger than the Luda...

Actually the rear position radar and CIWS also changed during Luhu refit, essentially making it a luhai with Type 730

China Defense Blog: The Luhu pair is back!

Now it remains 10 on 16 built :

NSF : 3 : Luda I T051D/Z : Xining 108* and Luda IV Type 051 DT : Kaifeng 109*, Dalian 110 **
* Guzhenkou/1 Fl Destr ** Lushun/10 Fl destr

ESF : 3 : Luda I T051D/Z : Hefei 132 , Chongqing 133 , Zunyi 134 at Dingai/Zhoushan/6 Fl Destr ( with the first new T052C the 150 )

SSF : 4 : Luda I T051D/Z : Nanchang 163, Guilin 164 and Luda III Type 051 G1/2 Zhanjiang 165, Zhuhai 166 at Zhanjiang/2è Flot Destr


With the 4 new type 052C the 3 of ESF are removed for 2013 or 2014.

Just 9 - 132 was turned over the Naval Aviation Engineering Academy at Yantai.

The è in 2 Flot Destr appears to be a left-over from 2ème...

Exact, i am French and copy in my files ...