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Old 10-13-2005   #76
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Re: Latest Varyag Pics
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The southamericans will pretty shure have some more experience as the russians for that.
Depends on their budgets over the years...how much training they were able to afford.

The Russians are also not able to afford a lot of training and exercises for their carrier now...but theirs is a much more modern carrier and it is of the same class ship as the Varyag.

I believe the PLAN will get much more help and milage from the Russian advisors...but I am sure they will use whatever expertise they can get to help boost their own learning curve, South American, French, Indian, etc..
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.... I am sure they will use whatever expertise they can get to help boost their own learning curve, South American, French, Indian, etc..
I agree.
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the US and French will not help China, and arrested landing of Brazil or Argentines is not so much different to arrested landing of the russians.
China studied the western (australian) optical landing system of melbourne, so - may be - the installed this system an board of Varjag.
Also the traffic at the deck to me seems not to be so different betw. STOAR and Catapult launching.
And operating of CBGs including cooperation to Planes, DDGs, Subs and .... is nearly the same job.
The southamericans will pretty shure have some more experience as the russians for that.
the frecnch? the offered to sell china a carrier in 95!
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Well, the Argentines and the Brazillians do have some carrier arrested landing and catapault launch experience...but it is limited when compared to the US...or, for that matter, to the French
well I was refering their political ideologyes and opinions. Hard to imagine somebody fighting decades against all kinds of Guevera-followers and sat in some junta could suddenly help openly communist nation to wage (possible) war agaisnt everything that they have believed for their whole life...
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well I was refering their political ideologyes and opinions...
From an ideological perspective, I see your point and agree. But not all are as committed and some of those can and will be be bought. It has always been that way...on both sides of the arguement.
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Well of those souht american countryes, only Brazil have nowadays a carrier and they are also still learning the use of jetfighters onboard (we all know the ridicilous struggle between brazil's navy and airforce about whose gonna fly those planes..) so i doupt that china could benefit greatly from brazils input...
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Well of those souht american countryes, only Brazil have nowadays a carrier and they are also still learning the use of jetfighters onboard ...so i doupt that china could benefit greatly from brazils input...
Argentinia and Brazil hold exercises for some years, including using the carriers of both states - now Argentias naval air arm use the new brazil carrier, in the past brazil also operated a helo carrier and brazil pilots used the former argentinian carrier.
And now Brazil, Argenitinia and Venezuela build the axis of popular socialistic gov. in Southamerica.
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yes, but as i mentioned, Brazilian navy has operated jets for only few years now and as more and more time passes after the deactiviation of 25 De Mayo, i severly doupt that Argentinian government aint going to waste more money to carrier airarm whit no carrier...

Russia is offcourse totally diferent thing...I mena, Kuznetsovs senior officers have to retire someday, dont they ?
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yes, but as i mentioned, Brazilian navy has operated jets for only few years now
Gollevainen, you can find nice pics of Brazil's new Sao Paulo launching its new A4Ms..and of every other carrier existing on earth today...at the following link:



The site also has links to each carrier's home page (when available) from their native country.

The site has a new doman name... www.worldwideaircraftcarriers.com ...but it might not be working yet.
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hey jeff, you can make fake pics right? can u make a pic of varyag with a plan number And flight deck markings?
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hey jeff, you can make fake pics right? can u make a pic of varyag with a plan number?
What number do you think it will take?
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What number do you think it will take?
Maybe 118 can u also add a few planes on it? thanks
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Maybe 118 can u also add a few planes on it? thanks
I'll give it a go...but it will be several days. Lots of work to do this week...probably quite a bit of overtime.
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Is this Varyag?
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Nope thats a PSed nimitz class carrier.
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