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sydneylaide · 10-15-2009

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Originally Posted by Pointblank

Hmm... I say it definitely shows that the Chinese are very much interested in getting the Varyag operational. I mean, why go to all the trouble of refurbishing the hull, making major modifications to the island, conducting long term dry docking for unknown work, and building a test and training facility which looks exactly like the deck of the Varyag?

No. The official report of Changjiang Daily states clearly it is the new office building of the 701 Institute. It is not a test and training facility. It looks exactly like the modified deck of the Varyag, but not the original one. It shows the 701 Institute did the renovation design work of the Varyag theme park.
If one looks the photos carefully, he will find out both structures are not designed for any testing, training or operation purposes.

Intrepid · 10-15-2009

It is mostly to test the electromagnetic compatibility, and the plane is generic only to have the correct position of antennas and radar.

Wolverine · 10-15-2009

Can there by any more doubt that the Varyag is going to be used as a carrier and not a casino? And if they're going through this much effort, it seems to me that it will not be a mere "training" carrier either.

maozedong · 10-15-2009

http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/atta...g-model-oct14-

look at this picture, at least, the building and fly deck for some test or training.

williamhou · 10-15-2009

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Originally Posted by tphuang

the last set of those pictures.

They are building a CV as their office ?

kroko · 10-15-2009

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Originally Posted by sydneylaide

No. The official report of Changjiang Daily states clearly it is the new office building of the 701 Institute. It is not a test and training facility. It looks exactly like the modified deck of the Varyag, but not the original one. It shows the 701 Institute did the renovation design work of the Varyag theme park.
If one looks the photos carefully, he will find out both structures are not designed for any testing, training or operation purposes.

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Originally Posted by williamhou

They are building a CV as there office ?

Yeah, it think they make this structure to be their office because they dream to be on a real carrier.

Seriously, sydneylaide, what you said doesnt make sense. All that work to prepare for a theme park?

Maggern · 10-15-2009

*sigh* SO close to the mockup and still no more information. The photographer should have thrown off the tarp, taken a spray of nice pictures and then run off like the wind, laughing hysterically.

maxx · 10-15-2009

Dreams may be shattered, but read this:

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Know such a cement carrier years ago, been to that place last summer, saw the "defence education centre", didn't know the carrier was there
-hskywalker, mp.net

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Defence education for Shanghai juveniles. Military theme park inside a recreational resort. -hskywalker, mp.net

Intrepid · 10-16-2009

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Originally Posted by maxx

Dreams may be shattered, but read this:

That is an other cement carrier, we saw already pictures of it. Go some pages back in this thread and you will find the pictures.

maxx · 10-16-2009

The one that actually have a hull a ship? Right, that makes much more sense now.

Quickie · 10-16-2009

They have surely built the island structure to a high standard, for it to be just a part of a theme park. It's more probable that the whole arrangement does serve a more useful purpose, like that of what some previous posters have mentioned, especially the testing of radars and associated equipment, and even, to experiment with the island's structural design.

Anyhow, the theme park idea may not even be feasible if the location is out of the way of the average visitor. In addition, why build a theme park on top of a building?

danielchin · 10-16-2009

The theme park was referred to another full carrier mockup (a USS Nimitz) at an education center, the one discussed here is not a full mockup makes even more sense that it will serve a purpose of training for certain operation(s).

Intrepid · 10-16-2009

Hardly a Nimitz-class with only two elevators on starboard, but definitely a kind of carrier

sydneylaide · 10-16-2009

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Originally Posted by kroko

Yeah, it think they make this structure to be their office because they dream to be on a real carrier.

Seriously, sydneylaide, what you said doesnt make sense. All that work to prepare for a theme park?

It is not me but that state government newspaper said it is only an office building. The report also said it has been already used so for the first two levels of this buidling.

Having looked the photos, I believe so.

However, I don't think it is just for a theme park. The 701 Institute, shipyards and PLAN have definitely checked the Varyag throughout, got everything they want to know.

maozedong · 10-16-2009

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2008年5月20日下午，省委副书记、市委书记杨松到461厂、471厂、701所视察调研，市委副书记涂勇、省委副秘书长刘晓呜、市委常委市委秘书长彭丽敏、市委副秘书长袁希民及市委办公厅、政研室、市经委参加。

视察461厂、471厂时，杨书记边视察边听取厂领导汇报，充分肯定企业近年来飞速发展和翻天覆地的变化，在听取461厂汇报到将与洪山区合作，在武东地区筹建船舶配套产业园工作表示这很好，要加快推进，并要求洪山区将情况上报到市委。

在 701所调研时，听取了所领导的汇报，对701所落户武汉发展和所承担的国防任务感到高兴。对所领导提出的在黄家湖征地建设检验综合平台项目用水用电问题要求政府相关部门要积极支持；“远程诊断中心”项目建设涉及变电站搬迁问题要求市经委参与协调，并考虑纳入首义广场古城改造规划，要“想办法解决”。

市经委分管领导李向阳、军工处参加调研活动

May 20, 2008 afternoon, The Communist Party Wuhan city Committee secretary Yang Song and many officials inspected the 461 factory, 471 Factory, 701 institute....
In the 701 investigation and study, led by heard reports on the 701 set up in Wuhan by the commitment to development and national defense tasks happy about it. Led to the proposed construction of HuangJiaHu testing integrated platform, with regard to land, water, electricity the same title, require the relevant government departments to actively support; "remote diagnostic center" project involves the relocation of substation problem requires the coordination of Municipal Economic Commission, to participate, and consider inclusion ShoYi Square old city reconstruction plan, to "find a way to solve."

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above article from some official newspaper report, I had read it for a long while, I read this article before those pictures appear in the internet.

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