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maozedong · 01-25-2010

new photos for Varyag, It seems to progress quite fast.

Maggern · 01-25-2010

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Originally Posted by maozedong

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/M...de20c022a8.jpg

http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/M...dac2136637.jpg

new photos for Varyag, It seems to progress quite fast.

Covered up because of painting?

maozedong · 01-25-2010

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Originally Posted by Maggern

Covered up because of painting?

I think they are painting some where and install some thing, most like bridge and window.

tphuang · 01-25-2010

I like this one better. It shows more clearly that AESA radar is also installed on the other side. Which means that the radars will have 360 degree coverage as expected.

Roger604 · 01-26-2010

Well it appears that they won't be using this purely as a training carrier after all if they are installing a full electronics system. Whatever structural / physical problems the Varyag had when it came from Ukraine was either exaggerated or solved.

born2kill · 02-01-2010

Structural issues are not doomspell in any case; they usually result from poor maintenance.

The carrier hulls are very resilient, just as all other large ship hulls. With proper maintenance and repair, they can last for dozens and dozens of years. Live witnesses to that are the Viirat and some other long-lived carriers.

So China with sufficient investment would make a jolly good carrier from the Varyag.

Greetings from the furnaces of Russian war industry beyond the Urals, in Siberia.

bd popeye · 02-04-2010

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maozedong · 02-05-2010

latest one.

kroko · 02-06-2010

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http://i48.tinypic.com/demblj.jpg

latest one.

Since the last 30 days, they have only added up a little on the mast. Perhabs the working pace is slowing, at least at the surface.

maozedong · 02-06-2010

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Since the last 30 days, they have only added up a little on the mast. Perhabs the working pace is slowing, at least at the surface.

It is to be progress in many areas, in addition to the mast, such as the bridge, windows, AESA radar position, as well as we might not see the internal decoration, a variety of related electronic systems and so on.
Are now starting to paint external.

maozedong · 02-17-2010

There are little improvements, the mast is installed on a column.ready for sensor.

bd popeye · 02-17-2010

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tomcat21 · 02-28-2010

I admit I am sloppy on some of my chinese naval radars and electronics, but it looks like there using some of the electronics from the phased array destroyer class they have. What types of radars, ecm, communications, and carrier landing approach systems do you think this ship will have? If not all of Kuznetsov's, at least some?

I also wonder too if the antiship missile tubes and launcher doors have been removed and space below for the hangar expanded. If I were the chinese, I wouldn't follow the russian carrier operations doctrine of protection of ASW and surface assets, but use a more western multirole capacity.

Mashan · 03-01-2010

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Since the last 30 days, they have only added up a little on the mast. Perhabs the working pace is slowing, at least at the surface.

It is Chinese New Year so every thing slow down since workers might be going back to the country side to celebrate the New Year holidays, the holiday can be a few days to a week long.

rhino123 · 03-01-2010

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It is Chinese New Year so every thing slow down since workers might be going back to the country side to celebrate the New Year holidays, the holiday can be a few days to a week long.

Official date for the workers to get back to work is at 22-Feb-2010. This means that it had already been a week since they are back.

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