FFG 054/054A Thread

[Kilo636]

If the picture really shows a third 054A being construsted,It will be a breakthru for PLAN modern warship construction. Cos they never gone beyond being more than 2 of the same kind. We can more or else comfirm,it will go into mass production...

[oringo]

Originally Posted by tphuang

supposedly, this is to show part of the 3rd 054A is still under construction, they haven't started the assemble yet. Also, according to the guy who took the pictures, who asked the shipyard workers, the engine is supposedly indigenous now.

It's a little dark inside, but is there another 022 on the left?

[Jeff Head]

Originally Posted by Kilo636

If the picture really shows a third 054A being construsted,It will be a breakthru for PLAN modern warship construction. Cos they never gone beyond being more than 2 of the same kind. We can more or else comfirm,it will go into mass production...

Well, they built two here at HP and now it looks like a third. But do not forget, they also built one over at HD and are working on the 2nd there too as I understand. That means five altogether in 6-8 months time.

You can see the next Type 054A on the right in these pictures, with the Sonar dome on the bow. It's dark in there, but, particularly in the 2nd picture, it can fairly easily be made out.

I'd say they are going to mass produce these, probably well over 20 of them before it is all said and done. But we shall see...time will tell. Very nice lines, very fine looking frigate.

[Sczepan]

Originally Posted by Kilo636

If the picture really shows a third 054A being construsted,It will be a breakthru for PLAN modern warship construction. Cos they never gone beyond being more than 2 of the same kind. We can more or else comfirm,it will go into mass production...

I think, the PLAN is satisfied with this type, so they order a "mass" production (let's say: they 'll order some more of them)

to build 2 of the same kind sounds like testing a new design and decide for new developings, derivate or - at least - order some more ...

[tphuang]

I will start off with a picture that shows 054A #3 in HP is well under way and 022 is also under construction. Same photo, but a little more clear with the circles pointing them out.

The second 054A at HD, I actually don't see much progress from the last time I posted them. I'm quite surprised here.


The 1st 054A + LPD

[RavenWing278]

im no expert in ship-building but how come the 054A's at HP are built indoors with less scaffolding and the one at HD is out side and loaded with scaffolding?

[bd popeye]

im no expert in ship-building but how come the 054A's at HP are built indoors with less scaffolding and the one at HD is out side and loaded with scaffolding?

The ships are simply in diffrent stages of construction. all that scafolding means is the ship is being painted. Or the hull finished in some manner. They maybe doing a final inspection of the welds on the hull.

[panzerkom]

Originally Posted by Kilo636

If the picture really shows a third 054A being construsted,It will be a breakthru for PLAN modern warship construction. Cos they never gone beyond being more than 2 of the same kind. We can more or else comfirm,it will go into mass production...

These are frigates that's gonna replace the Jianghu, I think that's why.

As a side note, no raised platform for the HQ-7. -- Is it confirmed that it'll have VLS? If so, any educated guess on which type?

[joshuatree]

Originally Posted by panzerkom

These are frigates that's gonna replace the Jianghu, I think that's why.

As a side note, no raised platform for the HQ-7. -- Is it confirmed that it'll have VLS? If so, any educated guess on which type?

Do you think the 054s will replace all the Jianghus (I-V)? That's about 30+ ships. Would it be a 1:1 replacement? That would be a serious upgrade for PLAN. Then, do you think all the Jianghus will find a second life in the Coast Guard?

[panzerkom]

Probably not a 1-to-1 ratio since the Jiangkai is much more capable. It's probably gonna take at least a decade for all the Jinghus to be phased out, it took the USN longer than that to get rid of its Spruance class after the first Arleigh Burke class was commissioned.

And I wouldn't be surprised to see 054Bs and 054Cs with the same basic hull design but different weapons systems either.

[joshuatree]

It may be possible that it would be a 1:1 replacement. Of course that would mean increasing and expanding the capabilities of PLAN but that's no surprise, it's their number one goal. I think you are right, we'll probably see newer and newer variations of the 054s as they get built out.

[kickars]

Originally Posted by panzerkom

As a side note, no raised platform for the HQ-7. -- Is it confirmed that it'll have VLS? If so, any educated guess on which type?

Do you mean 054 or 054A. If it's 054 you are talking about, then I'd like to know are they just gonna upgrade the HQ-7 to HQ-7A, or they will fit a completely different system.

[Gollevainen]

No, he is talking about the 054A. Well those who haven't followed the class's birth, yeas there is a VLS with HHQ-16 SAM a chinese derivation of the russian Shtill missile. The depate is more down exactly how many missiles are onboard as the views of the uncovered VLS console has been too hazy and controversial to make solid determition.

[panzerkom]

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

No, he is talking about the 054A. Well those who haven't followed the class's birth, yeas there is a VLS with HHQ-16 SAM a chinese derivation of the russian Shtill missile. The depate is more down exactly how many missiles are onboard as the views of the uncovered VLS console has been too hazy and controversial to make solid determition.

Ah, thank you, Gollevainen.

[maozedong]

I saw 054A pic, 1st and 2nd ship are different, these two older 054A(#525,#526) epuiped with HQ-7 missile, and the hull is different.
sources from internet that China total has 3 of 054A just left shipyard into water from oct,last year, the 4th 054A still in ship yard, from the photo the hull almost done, and the 5th 054A just started to build. plus #525,#526,suppose to be 5 of 054A already into water?
from the latest photos that show new vision of 054A, the hull is improved, and VSL installed at frond of the ship.
this is the photo shows VSL:
http://maozedong.250free.com/054A.jpg