FFG 054/054A Thread

[tphuang]

These are the pictures from Huangpu shipyard.

the one still in construction

[crobato]

The so called Orekh domes there now seem too round to be Orekhs to me. They could be tracking radars with high frequency direct line of sight datalinks.

[planeman]

The top picture in Tphuang's last post confirms that it has a varient of the Russian AK-176 76mm main gun in place of the more typical French origin 100mm gun.

[Gollevainen]

In this angle perhaps...but in other angels those things looks exactly like the Orekhs...

...We need to wait untill the canvans are take away, then we can make more proper assumptions...

[Gollevainen]

well not so long afterwards...



Is it just me but doesent they look suspiciosly white and plastic??

There is just something wrong in the pictures, but I hate to be wrong...but seriosly, nothing is that white.......Looks like someone has took a pic from some model kit, put little plastic bags atop the orekhs and placed it with the bow and main gun of th 071....

[swimmerXC]

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

well not so long afterwards...
http://i12.tinypic.com/2mpbswy.jpg
http://i14.tinypic.com/2v0c2v7.jpg

Is it just me but doesent they look suspiciosly white and plastic??

There is just something wrong in the pictures, but I hate to be wrong...but seriosly, nothing is that white.......Looks like someone has took a pic from some model kit, put little plastic bags atop the orekhs and placed it with the bow and main gun of th 071....

pictures been brightened with photoshop...

[tphuang]

Originally Posted by swimmerXC

pictures been brightened with photoshop...

yeah, it looks a little too bright. Also, same thing with the 071 LPD. It looks a little too bright to me. Never mind after looking at the previous 071 pictures from the 16th, it looks alright. 054A just stands out looking really weird.

[planeman]

If they are faked, then they are extremely consistant in small details, like the port datalink radome being blue rather than white. I reckon it's just a basic photo-enhancement.

Re the Type-054A, those four fire control radars look different to on previous warships. They are huge.

Re the Type-071, that's also an AK-176 76mm main gun.

Golly, look again at the pic Tphuang posted, there is no green cover on the main gun and it's clearly an AK-176 with the 'new' casing.

[tphuang]

generally, the picture looks real enough, anyhow. this is the final one coming out of HD.

They were speculating this to be a new 054A, but it looks to be earlier in the construction than the first photos of the second 054A we saw.

[crobato]

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

In this angle perhaps...but in other angels those things looks exactly like the Orekhs...

...We need to wait untill the canvans are take away, then we can make more proper assumptions...

They look like Orekhs in the new picture, but wait, that's just way too big to be Orekhs.v For illuminators they're huge.

[Gollevainen]

the new pics are in my obinion a model scale to PS into real picture of the 071in building....But I agree, they look rather odd, too big and the radome part is too small and short.

[swimmerXC]

Here ya go Planeman, you can get a good guess now of the length of the 054A

[crobato]

Too big to be actual Orekhs, unless the Orekhs themselves just have a revision we don't know about, which is unlikely though.

Still if these work as illuminators, you have to be bigger for a reason, and that usually means more power emission and greater signal gain from a larger antenna. This can mean the illumination range may be longer than the Orekhs, and quite possibly, the missiles may have a longer range than Shtil. This does not look like navalized SD-10 at this point. Leaves me with more questions than answers.

[tphuang]

this is posted in several places, but I figure might as well add it here.
原刊登于<解放日报>2006.12.20第五版
- from "PLA daily" on december 20th
中华人民共和国上海海事局航行通告
黄浦江新船出坞,部分江面禁止通航 沪海航[2006]493号 ]
huangpu river (in Shanghai) has new ships coming out, prohibit traffic
时间:2006年12月21日10:00至11:00及16:00至17:00
in 21st of December from 10 to 11 am and 4 to 5 pm
地点:沪东中华造船(集团)有限公司船坞上下游各500米距岸350米水哉.
Hudong shipyard has launching ship
作业方式:新船出坞后由5艘大马力拖轮协助拖码头靠泊.
method, new ship getting launched using 5 (something)
注意事项:1.作业期间实行临时交通管制;
2.下水前15分钟,船厂和下水船应在明显易见处显示规定信号;
3.临时拆除*8系船浮筒,待出坞完毕再复设;
4.作业和航行时船舶应注意VHF守听,并听众现场巡逻艇的指挥.

[swimmerXC]

BTW I don't know if you guys noticed but you see that orange/red box? Isn't that the VLS?