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Old 10-11-2006   #46
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a comparison of 169 with 136

any thoughts, guys?
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Are those to scale?
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If the Orekhs, Bandstand, Ka-28 helo, and Top Plate are the same size in both ships, then they're both to scale.
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According to this pic, both ships are same lenght, in fact the Sovremennyy was about 0.5 meters longer! This is interesting becouse for example the Weyer's Flottentaschenbocken say the 052B is 160 meters long (956EM is 156 meters long). Was the book wrong or is the real dimensions about these new chinese ships still just estimations and thus varies alot...
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Hard to say. Can't vouch for the accuracy of these drawings or Weyer's books either.
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They appear roughly the same in this picture

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They appear roughly the same in this picture

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8...ckfleetpa0.jpg
That is a very nice picture. Is that pic from the joint PLAN, Russian exercises earlier this year? Those two vessels would form a fairly potent Surface Action Group (SAG), and the PLAN now has the capability of forming such a group at any time, particularly if you add one of the 52Cs or 51s in their for area AAW coverage.
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Does anybody know why PLAN ships are painted white and Russian Ships are painted black?
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one of the explainations given to me was that the darker Russia scheme better masks the ship from peeping eyes from above while the whiter scheme of the Chinese ship better masks it from other surface targets. Really just a matter of preference, and a trivial one in my opinion.
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do you mean light grey and dark grey?
the reason is simple,just like troop's uniform,deffent country use deffent collour.isn't it?
if you ask for sub, both country are black now,good for hidding under the water.
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do you mean light grey and dark grey?
the reason is simple,just like troop's uniform,deffent country use deffent collour.isn't it?
if you ask for sub, both country are black now,good for hidding under the water.
The USN uses, I think Navy Grey, apparently it helps in "comouflaging" the ship.

Also, does anybody know how well armored those Sunburn launchers are? I mean a well placed 5 inch gun looks like it would penetrate it setting catastrophic fires and explosions from the missiles fuel.
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but when I was child in china I saw all chinese war ship are navy grey,why?
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My guess is the dark grey painting scheme helps the ship to blend in with the sea, whereas the light grey scheme helps the ship to blend in with the horizon.
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Hard to say. Can't vouch for the accuracy of these drawings or Weyer's books either.
It's not only the drawings in the book, but it's data section states so also. I quess we just need to wait (like with so many other stuff too) and see...I personally think the 153-56 is more closer to thge truht than the Weyer's 160m.
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The new soveremnnyy class’s just this week left the Baltic’s approaches.
it has the same layout as 138. Not surprisingly its number is 139.
It has 2 new weapon systems on the super structure looking very much like a Shahine/Crotale /HQ7 clone.
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