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Blob

When I recently went to China, I bought the DVD version of the tv-series (1995) produced by ChinaCentralTV.

There are 28 discs. And it has taken me a month to watch all the 84 episodes.

Romance of the Three kingdoms is a must see for anybody who is interested in this period of Chinese (military) history. Love, drama, war, loyalty all make their presence felt in this epic. No small wonder why it is still around, even after almost 2000 years.

Liberator

Yes Romance of the three kingdoms. Its kinda old but, its good though.

It won't be good for people that only watch violence and kill all the time.

Dongfeng

Yes, but you have to be aware that the TV series is based on the book "The Romance of the Three Kingdoms", which is a novel written by Luo Guanzhong several hundred years ago, while the actual history took place two thousand years ago. The real history is far from romantic. In fact, ordinary people got killed by warlords, and their cities and villages destroied.

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Liberator

How did Guan Yi die in the end? He got killed or just died of natural causes.

Obcession

He died because he was captured by Wei and he was asked to join their side. When he said no because he will always be loyal to his brothers who were in Shu, Ciao Ciao had no choice but to kill him. Ciao Ciao was not going to let such a brilliant of a general rejoin his enemy again. By that time I think Zhang Fei already died because he was assasinated by two of his followers.

The whole series is awesome! The book is even better, 110 chapters! For all of you that haven't read the book or seen it before, you should! I wonder if there is an English version of the book.

Dongfeng

Where did you get that story from, Obcession? I think you get confused Guan Yu was not killed by Cao Cao, but Wu Kingdom.

When Liu Bei sent most of his troops to capture Han Zhong, he left his brother Guan Yu to guard Jin Zhou, where Liu Bei started his power after defeating Cao Cao's army in Chi Bi with his ally Wu Kingdom.

Then Shu kingdom's ally Wu broke the treaty and attacked Jin Zhou. Guan Yu did not listen to his advisers to get prepared, and was defeated and captured. Then Wu kingdom killed him and his son.

For this reason Liu Bei stopped his war with Wei kingdom (Cao Cao), and sent his whole army to attack Wu Kingdom. Unfortunately, just when he was about to capture the capital of Wu Kingdom, he was defeated by Wu's arsenal attack. He had to retreat back to Shu Kingdom and his kingdom's power was seriously damaged. Soon he died.

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YueTheMighty

Actaully, Zhang Fei didn't die until after Guan Yu's death.

T-U-P

Zhang Fei was killed by his soldiers, he wanted them to make a large number of special battle uniforms (the white ones so he can take revenge for Guan Yu's death) but he only gave them a little time and also he abuse them frequently because he was not happy. so one day his soldiers had enough of him and killed him when he was sleeping (after getting drunk).

Obcession

Oh you're right DongFeng! Ah I haven't read the book in such a long time.

And they cut off his head and gave his head to Wei.

FriedRiceNSpice

Finally, Liu Bei died, the last of the 3 brothers of the Peach Garden to die. Then, Zhu Ge Liang died about 5-10 years after Liu Bei's death, and the Kingdom of Shu was defeated.

T-U-P

you know when those 3 were in the peach garden, they said that they'll live together and die together, but in reality they didn't die together, but rather Guan Yu died first.

FriedRiceNSpice

True. Did you know that afterwards, Guan Yu became the Chinese God of War? If you ever go to Hangzhou in China, there is even a shrine dedicated to him.

Obcession

Because Liu Bei's son was such a low life! Liu Bei was wise and generous and a great ruler, Zhu Ge Liang being his trusted strategist. Liu Bei actually told Zhu Ge Liang that he could take his son's inheritance of the kingdom away if the son was "unfit" for it. Zhu Ge Liang did not, however, because he honored Liu Bei... Liu Bang 忘恩负义.

swimmerXC

Sorry to ruin your debates... but whats the movie called in chinese, pinying please (mandarin would be nice ), i remembered playing a game called this.. your like a general in imperical china and you have to win territories...

FriedRiceNSpice

In Chinese, it is San Gou Yan Yi. That translates to: Three Kingdoms Perform Drama.