Chinas best dynastic military?

I think the best Chinese dynasty military ever is the Song Dynasty's military.They had flame throwers,strong navies,big crossbows.

Originally Posted by History Fan

I think the best Chinese dynasty military ever is the Song Dynasty's military.They had flame throwers,strong navies,big crossbows.

I think I would have to disagree with you here (no offense). Because Song Dynasty even with their big weapons have half of its empire conquered by the Liao first, then the Jin. And the defeats by the Mongols are more or less humiliating since the Mongols had weaker weapons.

I think the strongest dynasty is the Tang dynasty because of the glory that it brought China... even up till now, many people consider China as Tang Shan.

no no no no no !
Yuan Dynasty is the most powerful military force,Genghis Khan who....

Originally Posted by maozedong

no no no no no !
Yuan Dynasty is the most powerful military force,Genghis Khan who....

But can Mongol be consider as Chinese?

Originally Posted by rhino123

But can Mongol be consider as Chinese?

so,how about Qing Dynasty? Governance by the Manchuria.Mongolian and Manchuria both are ethnic minorities of China.
if Yuan Dynasty is not the Chinese Dynasty,then historians should delete it from the history of China.(宋,元,明,清)
Mongolian ancestors, some people are Xiongnu people(匈奴人),Xiongnu's ancestor is one ethnic of Xia Dynasty of China,
after Xia Dynasty perished,Xiongun people moved to northern grassland area of China,where was the area of now the Mongol.
now,part of Mongolian independent,called outside Mongol,part of Mongolian still stay in China, called inside Mongol.

Originally Posted by maozedong

so,how about Qing Dynasty? Governance by the Manchuria.Mongolian and Manchuria both are ethnic minorities of China.
if Yuan Dynasty is not the Chinese Dynasty,then historians should delete it from the history of China.(宋,元,明,清)
Mongolian ancestors, some people are Xiongnu people(匈奴人),Xiongnu's ancestor is one ethnic of Xia Dynasty of China,
after Xia Dynasty perished,Xiongun people moved to northern grassland area of China,where was the area of now the Mongol.
now,part of Mongolian independent,called outside Mongol,part of Mongolian still stay in China, called inside Mongol.

Good point. Sorry being a Chinese born in another country I really do not know much of Chinese History, thanks for the lesson you have given me.

where is tne Han Dynasty? I think it was the most glourious dynasty in history

Originally Posted by PuisHan Dynasty

where is tne Han Dynasty? I think it was the most glourious dynasty in history

Han and Tang dynasty in China's history of the two most glorious dynasty, but we should look at another aspect of history, because these two dynasties in China's history is the early dynasties, for instance, the Han population of only 30 million, the Tang dynasty a population of only 50 million, and their territory and population than the number of the Yuan Dynasty after dynasty, a far cry from, particularly the Han dynasty, when south of the Yangtze River in China has not yet developed.
China's five dynasties, was once the world's most powerful country, is the Han, Tang, Yuan, Ming and Qing, the Yuan dynasty conquered the Eurasian continent, and the Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty has established a vast empire, the Qing dynasty board plans than now to the PRC, only because of the Opium War, the mid-19th century, Western powers aggression against China, so China has lost many territories.
Because of the Han dynasty and Tang Dynasty was China's feudal society in a period of prosperity, these two dynasties of a brilliant feudal civilization, and since the Song dynasty feudal society began to decline, so there is no glory China of the Han - Tang Spirit.
However, we are discussing is on the other hand, apart from historical civilization, and the Yuan Dynasty is the most powerful military empire, followed by the Ming Dynasty and Qing Dynasty Imperial.

it's Han dynasty.

Sorry gentlemen,
I still think the Yuan, they expanded china's military beyond it's borders.
Just returned from Wiener Neustadt in Austria, there are mongol armor
and helmets as well as Paize in desplay at an interesting museum.
The mongols went this far.
Seems PRC is using the Yuan as it's model for development.
Visit chengjisihan.com.cn and you will know what I am talking about.
r's
Clive

There is no choice for Han? That's weird.

Originally Posted by cliveersknell

Sorry gentlemen,
I still think the Yuan, they expanded china's military beyond it's borders.
Just returned from Wiener Neustadt in Austria, there are mongol armor
and helmets as well as Paize in desplay at an interesting museum.
The mongols went this far.
Seems PRC is using the Yuan as it's model for development.
Visit chengjisihan.com.cn and you will know what I am talking about.
r's
Clive

The Yuan is just one group of Mongols. I think the problem they have for "best military dynasty" is being very short lived compared to other dynasties.

since many people do not like the Yuan Dynasty and the Mongol, Ming Dynasty may wish to consider it a strong force, and vast territory, not be comparable to the Han Dynasty and the Tang Dynasty.
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South Korea, "North Korea Weekly" reported that: Zheng He voyage display the spirit of the core of China's diplomacy

After 600 years of ups and downs, when it was re-mainland China, "Zheng He" Tornado.

This year is the "Zheng He" 600 anniversary, but also rely on when China is rapidly increasing national strength, further carry forward the spirit of the Chinese nation in the new period. To commemorate Zheng He's achievements, China will be on July 11 as a "Maritime Day," and carried out various activities.

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China to such a high-level evaluation of Zheng He, his command at that time the world's most powerful fleet, but not an inch of the occupied territories of other countries, instead of treating other countries, which today China's foreign policy of peace and development are the same. In other words, Zheng and
display the core of China's foreign policy spirit.
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should be Qin