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    Quote Originally Posted by SampanViking View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that America's finest are sent in with equipment that is so poor that you can buy better in a toy shop?

    It also managed to make someone with a long thin head look like someone with a short round one.
    Even if its genuine, its not an official photo. Its simply one taken by a commando who saw the opportunity in taking a photo of the corpse of the world's most wanted man too good an opportunity to pass up, hence the quality. Ive seen photos of the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan taken by the ordinary marine. Even now AP are showing unofficial videos of the compound, and the bedroom where shootout occurred. Having said that I'd have to agree with you that the roundness of the face does cast some doubt.

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    This is said to be how they got the ' fake ' photo.Apparently it's been on the internet for some years.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...den-photo-fake
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    Yeah that photo appeared on 4chan before I saw it anywhere else and it was regarded as a fake so...that should tell you whats up with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn McCool View Post
    Yeah that photo appeared on 4chan before I saw it anywhere else and it was regarded as a fake so...that should tell you whats up with that.
    Well that settles it.
    but the link didnt work for me

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden has been killed

    The US says Osama Bin Laden was buried at sea from CVN-70.


    Bin Laden Buried at Sea

    By Jim Garamone, American Forces Press Service

    WASHINGTON (NNS) -- Osama bin Laden received a Muslim ceremony as he was buried at sea, a senior defense official said in Washington, D.C., May 2.

    The religious rites were performed aboard the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) in the North Arabian Sea and occurred within 24 hours of the terrorist leader's death, said the official.

    "Preparations for at-sea [burial] began at 1:10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time and were completed at 2 a.m.," said the official.

    The burial followed traditional Muslim burial customs, and bin Laden's body was washed and placed in a white sheet, said the official.

    "The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker," the official added.

    Afterward, bin Laden's body was placed onto a flat board, which was then elevated upward on one side and the body slid off into the sea.

    The deceased terrorist was buried at sea because no country would accept bin Laden's remains, a senior defense official said.

    Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and Defense Department officials are sure it was the body of bin Laden. CIA specialists compared photos of the body with known photos of bin Laden and said with 95-percent certainty it was the terrorist leader, a senior intelligence official said.

    In addition, bin Laden's wife identified the al-Qaida leader by name while the strike team was still in the compound, said the intelligence official.

    CIA and other specialists in the intelligence community "performed the initial DNA analysis matching a virtually 100-percent DNA match of the body against the DNA of several of bin Laden's family members," the official added.
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    Chinese Media says Pakistani forces got ‘Bin Laden!’ | Defense & Security News at DefenseTalk

    I'm not sure what exactly this article is trying to say, but according to it, supposedly Pakistani media is reporting that anonymous Pakistani gov sources say that Pakistani troops got Bin Laden. Which just such an obvious lie...
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    Chinese media just reports random stuff. And of course Pakistani news is going to talk up Pakistani involvement.

    Look, there are some serious questioning ahead for the Pakistani gov't. Let's just say main stream America has certain view of Pakistan before this and it just confirmed a lot of their views.

    btw, I do think at least some people in the Pakistani military knew about this operation. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine how the navy seals could get that far into the country without someone shooting those helicopters down.

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    Re: Osama Bin Laden has been killed

    Quote Originally Posted by bladerunner View Post
    Heres a reputed photo of the corpse. It sorta looks like him

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...77_634x423.jpg
    LOL what happened to his face? ( i mean the eyes. i know he got shot)
    Actually if you look at it the 2nd time, it's kinda gross..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd popeye View Post
    I don't think so. The helo malfunction may have been due to FOD. Rocks and sand flying about sucked up in the engine..Or perhaps something hit a rotorblade. I'm sure no LZ was completely cleared before the landing. My shipmates the US Navy SEALS destroyed the helo before they left the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn McCool View Post
    Yeah that photo appeared on 4chan before I saw it anywhere else and it was regarded as a fake so...that should tell you whats up with that.
    if it's on 4chan, it's fake
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tphuang View Post
    Chinese media just reports random stuff. And of course Pakistani news is going to talk up Pakistani involvement.

    Look, there are some serious questioning ahead for the Pakistani gov't. Let's just say main stream America has certain view of Pakistan before this and it just confirmed a lot of their views.

    btw, I do think at least some people in the Pakistani military knew about this operation. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine how the navy seals could get that far into the country without someone shooting those helicopters down.
    I don't know what is the definition of "troll", Mr. Mod, but I saw this:

    The article quoted by Mr. McCool at #52, is neither a Chinese media source, nor quoting any Chinese media. - the only thing related to Chinese media, is

    "Sources of Xinhua said they tried to enter the area after the incident took place, but no media people were allowed inside."

    - and THAT, became "Chinese media just reports random stuff"?

    I guess what we call 标题党 has fooled some of our senior members here - some genius AT DEFENCE TALK, using a shocking title, that "Chinese media says this", and our good senior member just take whatever being told, hah?

    Man, I see what's coming.

    I am anxious to see that the US troops at Afghanistan packs up...

    ...and go to middle east. (Mediterranean, more precisely)

    - just like 1 year ago they pack up at Iraq and go to Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.e. View Post
    with all due respect, OSB is not the new hitler.

    And since when has targeted state killing of a human being cause for joy?
    It's no joy ..... it's impossible for people like Osama bin Laden to give joy to anyone, even in their death.

    It's relief ..... Earth is relieved of the weight of a frigging bastard.

    The mere mention of Osama .... reminds you of your loved one, who is no longer with you. For no fault of his.

    Just because of this sick man.

    And you start empathising with thousands of others whose loss may have been even greater.

    Believe me, there are many (ordinary) people in this world who would like to see Osama butchered, sliced and pounded ..... he really really got away cheap with a few bullets.

    ----

    I just don't know .... what to say to people like you ..... you can pass insensitive sermons (.. I agree, possibly due to ignorance of others pain). But still....


    Obviously your world didn't collapse because of this bastard. But remember your own words for the person who destroys your world and everything. (.. and by that I don't mean to wish you bad. I wish you well, off course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by airsuperiority View Post
    bravo zulu? bz?
    In the USN Bravo Zulu means "A job Well Done"..simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bingo View Post
    It's no joy ..... it's impossible for people like Osama bin Laden to give joy to anyone, even in their death.

    It's relief ..... Earth is relieved of the weight of a frigging bastard.

    The mere mention of Osama .... reminds you of your loved one, who is no longer with you. For no fault of his.

    Just because of this sick man.

    And you start empathising with thousands of others whose loss may have been even greater.

    Believe me, there are many (ordinary) people in this world who would like to see Osama butchered, sliced and pounded ..... he really really got away cheap with a few bullets.

    ----

    I just don't know .... what to say to people like you ..... you can pass insensitive sermons (.. I agree, possibly due to ignorance of others pain). But still....


    Obviously your world didn't collapse because of this bastard. But remember your own words for the person who destroys your world and everything. (.. and by that I don't mean to wish you bad. I wish you well, off course)


    well it didn't stop you from having a sermon didn't it?


    He is a frickin' bastard because you (and foreign policy of US) made him into one, if no one would give him attention he wouldn't be what he was.

    And he is not a irrational bastard as we characturize him to be.
    His whole modus operandi was to provoke an reaction, that is what terrorists DO.

    by reacting to them like some people (including you) reacted to them you help them succeed in their goal.

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    Just ask yourself. what would Jesus (or Buddha, pick your favorite Diety) do in this situation? would the killing of a life cause them joy? or relief?

    and to make your head hurt a bit more.
    what is a terrorist anyways? before you answer that question, let's agree that whoever fits the definition would be qualify, regardless of your feelings? fair?

    my definition is: people who deliberatly kill innocent civilians to make a point.

    Ok,
    how many civilians died in Bomber Harris's fire bombing of Dresden.
    Or LeMay's firebombing of Tokyo.
    They were trying to make a point you know. the whole premise of strategic bombing was based on killing civilians to make a point.

    so how many lives... opps I should use the euphamism of "collateral damage".... does it one qualifies for that definition? in this age of precision strikes weapons and Blackwater security shot up cars full of family and kids?
    how many? care to give me a number?

    some body gotta ask these question, might as well be me.
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