Osama Bin Laden has been killed

Wow. There were rumors years ago that he was dead or killed. Now the news of his death just come in time for the 911 10th anniversary. What coincidence good timing but with no picture to verify his death or tell when was his actual death. Really suspicious of this latest political move.

Edit: i know a lot of people overjoyed with the death of bin laden, but for some across the globe let me say that back in 2001 the U.S. was very hostile towards china with the 1999 belgrade embassy bombing making china look weak and then the e-spy plane downed on hainan island then followed by the attacks of 911. In a way osama bin laden helped china and the u.s. eased tensions and return normal relations druing the time for the world to cooperate in fighting terrorism. I just want to pointnthat out.

Why is it that U.S. fighting assets always have mechanical failures at the scene of action? The most recent one in Libya, and now, in the thick of action. You get the hint that things were not reported as it is.

Originally Posted by bluewater2012

Wow. There were rumors years ago that he was dead or killed. Now the news of his death just come in time for the 911 10th anniversary. What coincidence good timing but with no picture to verify his death or tell when was his actual death. Really suspicious of this latest political move.

Edit: i know a lot of people overjoyed with the death of bin laden, but for some across the globe let me say that back in 2001 the U.S. was very hostile towards china with the 1999 belgrade embassy bombing making china look weak and then the e-spy plane downed on hainan island then followed by the attacks of 911. In a way osama bin laden helped china and the u.s. eased tensions and return normal relations druing the time for the world to cooperate in fighting terrorism. I just want to pointnthat out.

I agree. If 911 didn't happen, I wonder how China will react to the tension and what sort of geopolitical landscape would come into being. It could be worse than how the events have actually turned out.

I dont think OBL death will affect the functionality of AQ. After all AQ was more like a franchise operation like MacDonalds withOBL adopting a hands off approach.

However as some commentators point out, its interesting they did not try to capture him and put him on trial.Perhaps it would have been too embarassing with his past connections with the West.

Originally Posted by Obcession

Seems like he's already buried at sea... and still no pictures of his body have come out... To be sure, I want to see pictures of his corpse to verify he's dead!

Heres a reputed photo of the corpse. It sorta looks like him

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...77_634x423.jpg

Originally Posted by Quickie

Why is it that U.S. fighting assets always have mechanical failures at the scene of action? The most recent one in Libya, and now, in the thick of action. You get the hint that things were not reported as it is.

I don't think so. The helo malfunction may have been due to FOD. Rocks and sand flying about sucked up in the engine..Or perhaps something hit a rotorblade. I'm sure no LZ was completely cleared before the landing. My shipmates the US Navy SEALS destroyed the helo before they left the scene.

Bravo Zulu a job well done.

Originally Posted by bladerunner

I dont think OBL death will affect the functionality of AQ. After all AQ was more like a franchise operation like MacDonalds withOBL adopting a hands off approach.

However as some commentators point out, its interesting they did not try to capture him and put him on trial.Perhaps it would have been too embarassing with his past connections with the West.

It's much less riskier to terminate someone than to capture him or her alive. You have a better chance of saving yourself if you immediately react with your entire firepower at the first sign of resistance.

The Daily Mail picture looks like its been taken on the kind of shaky, low res and out of focus camera usually owned by UFO and Loch Ness Monster Enthusiasts.

Originally Posted by Quickie

It's much less riskier to terminate someone than to capture him or her alive. You have a better chance of saving yourself if you immediately react with your entire firepower at the first sign of resistance.

Thats true, but the reports say he was killed with a shot to the head. The type of situation that I think you are describing, should have resulted in him being riddled with bullets.

Originally Posted by SampanViking

The Daily Mail picture looks like its been taken on the kind of shaky, low res and out of focus camera usually owned by UFO and Loch Ness Monster Enthusiasts.

Maybe it was taken by one of the participants with a Low Res Camera phone or a still shot off a video camera. Those lines in the photo make think that the latter is more likely.

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This allegedly is the crashed black hawk from the operation in or near the compound.

Originally Posted by pugachev_diver

Deleted by bd popeye. Offensive country bashing dribble. And you and your alter egos will be gone. Yeah he's a troll.. Be sure to read the banned list.

Originally Posted by bladerunner

Maybe it was taken by one of the participants with a Low Res Camera phone or a still shot off a video camera. Those lines in the photo make think that the latter is more likely.

Are you seriously suggesting that America's finest are sent in with equipment that is so poor that you can buy better in a toy shop?

It also managed to make someone with a long thin head look like someone with a short round one.

Originally Posted by bd popeye

I don't think so. The helo malfunction may have been due to FOD. Rocks and sand flying about sucked up in the engine..Or perhaps something hit a rotorblade. I'm sure no LZ was completely cleared before the landing. My shipmates the US Navy SEALS destroyed the helo before they left the scene.

Bravo Zulu a job well done.

Yeah the more you read about all sorts of special operations missions, the more you realize that Murphy's law really is correct. You practically have to expect mechanical failure or something at the worst possible moment. The Iran hostage rescue mission in 1979 failed because of various mechanical and "Random" problems. In the "Black Hawk Down" incident the original US casualty that set in motion a chain of failures was caused by a guy falling while repelling from the helicopter. I could go on and on with examples of covert operations that suffered from problems not related to enemy fire. I'd imagine that in this case, the heli crashed on the way out, otherwise they probably would have scrubbed/modified the mission. I have a nagging suspicion too that maybe the helicopter was shot down by Pakistani Army units that were in Abbotabad.

EDIT: The latest news says that Obama watched the operation go down on live video and that that Pakistanis scrambled jets as the SEALs were egressing.