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bladerunner · 05-19-2009

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Let's hope that Terminator Salvation is better than Terminator 3.....

It would'nt take much

bd popeye · 05-19-2009

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I've been working with an independent production company in LA. Don't make much money so far that's why I don't do it full time. I'm thinking of staging a coup because the guy that's the creative force behind much of their stuff hasn't paid off.

I started off as a script supervisor on a couple of productions. Didn't like it. Too much multi-tasking for me.

My son has worked on a couple of productions that don't pay on time. Usally when that happens the crew quits. Fortunatley he's Union so he did get paid.

As far as being a script supervisor or PA your right too much multi-tasking. Especially for a PA. They every errand on & off set. Get coffee. Hand out script re-writes. Run off set errands. Take a lot of crap from directors..etc...etc..

Obi Wan Russell · 05-19-2009

Saw the new star Trek Movie, Loved it! Long time Trek Fan too. There will be a sequel, it has been announced. I like pretty much any sci fi, so long as it has been well thought out to begin with. HUGE Galactica fan also, but then considering my interest in naval aviation and sci fi a series about an aircraft carrier in space was always going to push my buttons!

I've long believed good and indeed great movies are made in spite of the hollywood system, not because of it. They kind of slip out under the radar of the execs, who were probably told the movie was something else to begin with! My eldest brother and his then wife were extras on a big budget movie back in the 80s called Revolution starring Al Pacino, about the American war of independence ( it was filmed in Cornwall!). Mega budget, mega flop! Hollywood basically churns out a lot of movies every year in the hope that a few will succeed. The small number of hits generate enough profit to cover the flops and continue the cycle.

I also like watching really BAD movies, just for fun. You haven't lived until you've seen Plan 9 From Outer Space!

Finn McCool · 05-19-2009

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Do you mean through fire power?. Galactica reminds me of a WW1 vintage Dreadnought class battleship, while the Enterprise, a sleek nimble battlecruiser, that can duck and dive with ease while releasing a couple of phonton torps, bye bye Galatica.

whoops my mistake in the vacuum of space aerodynamics doesn't come into it ... so how would one go about making one craft more manoeuvrable than other?

Let the nerdiness begin.

I thought this through while I was watching Star Trek. It would seem that it would happen the way you said at first, and if the Enterprise ever got close it would indeed go down that way. But let's remember the Galactica has an entire airwing. That is the key to victory. The Galactica can just instantaneously jump around, and so can its Raptors, until it finds the Enterprise, lay an ambush with its air wing or deploy the air wing them jump away. One nuke from a Raptor should be enough to disable the Enterprise to the point that the Vipers could finish it off. The Enterprise has no weapons suitable for use against lots of independent small craft in all directions.

Basically its like the Prinice of Wales and the Repulse (a fast battleship and a battlecruiser) off of Malaysia in 1941. If they had ever gotten close to the Japanese fleet they would have gone through them like tissue paper but they were destroyed by naval aviation before they could even find the enemy much less get within gun range. It's basically just the classic carrier vs. battleship situation in space.

bd popeye · 05-19-2009

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Let the nerdiness begin.

Finn ..now that is funny..

You guys like Sci-Fi models?? Check these pages..

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Be sure to click on the Photo link at the bottom of the page on the first link..

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But let's remember the Galactica has an entire airwing.

Yea..but the Big E can call on this bad boy!

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The USS SAIPAN is an assault shuttle carrier, similar in mission to one of her early namesakes, the 20th century LHA-class amphibious assault ships. Like those old wet-navy vessels, Saipan's mission is to carry a lot of attack craft and soldiers, and deposit them on a beachhead (landing zone) as fast as possible. To that end, Saipan and her class have four voluminous shuttle bays with aft-facing doors. These bays take up most of the space in the semi-circular primary hull, and allow for the shipping of about 100 assault and supply shuttles in four independant squadrons.

This image shows a simultaneous combat-launch of all four assault squadrons.

Time Period: Between ST:VI and ST:TNG

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Reversing the above angle demonstrates Saipan's assault technique - warp into orbit, point the ship's stern toward the planet so that all the shuttles are facing their proper atmospheric entry path when launched, and flush the hangars as fast as safety allows.

Here Saipan and her sister USS Tarawa deposit Starfleet Marines on an island on a planet near the Romulan Neutral Zone, suspected of being occupied by a clandestine Romulan lsitening post. The plasma trails of four shuttles can be seen entering the atmosphere at upper lef

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As the ship transitions into subspace, all six of Saipan's shuttle bays can be seen here. Those numbered 2 - 5 on the aft face of the primary hull are the main assault ship hangars. Shuttle bay number 1, at the aft of the bridge superstructure, is for officer and personnel shuttles. Bay 6 at the far stern is the cargo bay.

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Posing with her namesake for a publicity shot, a powered-down USS Saipan orbits over the island whose name she bears. In June 1944 US forces invaded Saipan as part of the long "island-hopping" campaign to drive the agressive Japanese Empire back to its own shores.

Orbiting far below the Saipan, a Conquerer class battleship waits to escort her on her next mission

Bring it on Galatica! The Federation got sumpthin' for your ...

AssassinsMace · 05-19-2009

Fun with sci-fi fanboy rivalry

YouTube - Star Trek vs. Star Wars

YouTube - Battlestar Galactica Vs Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs Babylon 5

Here's something fun to explore if you believe size matters.

http://www.merzo.net/

bd popeye · 05-19-2009

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Originally Posted by AssassinsMace

Fun with sci-fi fanboy rivalry

YouTube - Star Trek vs. Star Wars

YouTube - Battlestar Galactica Vs Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs Babylon 5

Here's something fun to explore if you believe size matters.

Jeff Russell's STARSHIP DIMENSIONS

I watched the first video.Liked it! Those boys that made that probably live in their parents basement and still play Dungeons and Dragons all night.

..All in all great job! Two thumbs up!...

I like the second more but I wish it was longer!

Dang I'm one old nerd!!!!

Bltizo · 05-19-2009

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Originally Posted by AssassinsMace

Fun with sci-fi fanboy rivalry

YouTube - Star Trek vs. Star Wars

YouTube - Battlestar Galactica Vs Star Wars Vs Star Trek Vs Babylon 5

Here's something fun to explore if you believe size matters.

Jeff Russell's STARSHIP DIMENSIONS

Second one's better, first is just like an intricate cut paste job.

Also, on which ship is better in various sci fi, STAR DESTROYER OWNS ALL!! (The reddish ones in revenge of the sith). Star Wars ships look the best in all of the Sci Fi universes I think.
Star Trek's ships are weird. To this day I have not found one source on why they're shaped like why they are. Anyone know why?

Engineer · 05-19-2009

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Star Trek's ships are weird. To this day I have not found one source on why they're shaped like why they are. Anyone know why?

If I recall, they are that way because Gene Roddenberry listed some rules regarding ship design in the Star Trek universe. If you want the nerd explanation, they are that way to optimize the sub-space field/warp bubble.

Engineer · 05-19-2009

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Originally Posted by Finn McCool

But let's remember the Galactica has an entire airwing.

And what exactly can they do to a Borg cube?

FriedRiceNSpice · 05-19-2009

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Those boys that made that probably live in their parents basement and still play Dungeons and Dragons all night. ..All in all great job! Two thumbs up!...

Hey!!! Whats wrong with that!?!?!

AssassinsMace · 05-19-2009

Here's another fun one for Star Wars fans.

YouTube - Death Star Destroys Enterprise

In regards to which ships are better... being a fan of sci-fi in general I'm not particular to one side but just going by what was seen and said from watching the movies and TV. I would have to say according by what you get in size and by what was said in the narrative, Star Trek starships probably can take on nearly everyone else on other shows. In the original series I remember it was said that one starship can annihilate the entire surface of a planet. Plus a starship can battle while in warp speed. It has the weapons and it has the speed. IMO, starships have the advantage.

bladerunner · 05-20-2009

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Originally Posted by Finn McCool

Let the nerdiness begin.

I thought this through while I was watching Star Trek. It would seem that it would happen the way you said at first, and if the Enterprise ever got close it would indeed go down that way. But let's remember the Galactica has an entire airwing. That is the key to victory. The Galactica can just instantaneously jump around, and so can its Raptors, until it finds the Enterprise, lay an ambush with its air wing or deploy the air wing them jump away. One nuke from a Raptor should be enough to disable the Enterprise to the point that the Vipers could finish it off. The Enterprise has no weapons suitable for use against lots of independent small craft in all directions.

Basically its like the Prinice of Wales and the Repulse (a fast battleship and a battlecruiser) off of Malaysia in 1941. If they had ever gotten close to the Japanese fleet they would have gone through them like tissue paper but they were destroyed by naval aviation before they could even find the enemy much less get within gun range. It's basically just the classic carrier vs. battleship situation in space.

Yes in your scenario and assuming the Galactica was in full fighting trim, she should win out, but lets alter things by introducing a scenario from their respective storylines.
On the one hand there's the Galactica a battle damaged and manned by a battle fatigued crew. With her support squadrons seriously depleted over time, which amounted to many earth years, in warding off the Cylons,and with the remaining surviving ships to protect the captain adopts a defensive rather than offensive position with his remaining birds finds earth. but with the Enterprise in the way.
The Enterprise is in home territory with a well maintained ship and a crew rearing to go after a period of RR. This is where the Captain of the Galactica makes his mistake by not launching any birds, because he's unaware that the Enterprise doesn't have any.
Meanwhile wily old Captain Kirk having armed torps long ago leaves his shields down and refrains from powering up his lasers to prevent any sign of hostility manoeuvres the Enterprise into a position to fire the torps. . The Captain of the Galactica only realised he's been suckered by Kirks action with the sound of the first torpeodo strikes.

Actually I vaguely remember Kirk did employing such a tactic when he encountered a better armed foe.

bd popeye · 05-20-2009

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All in all you're probably right but mind, there has been some classic films made over the decades that successfully comment about issues of the time.
Charlie Chaplins ' the Great Dictator" ? Satirizing Nazi Germany, On the Beach, Dr Strangelove, To Kill a Mockingbird, Twelve Angry Men. to name a few.

Can anyone recall the name of the movie which I thought was a bit to cheesey to waste money on seeing at the theatre,( I thought I might look for it with my free DVD hire voucher at the local video store) about the American Nuclear Aircraft Carrier that gets transported back into time into the WW2 Pacific war locale. What was the name of the carrier that appeared in the film?

That was the "Final Countdown" 1981 starring the USS Nimitz CVN-68

AssassinsMace · 05-22-2009

Saw Terminator: Salvation today. It's one of those leave your brain at the door movies and you might enjoy it. It was action packed but the story had a major size hole so obvious it makes me wonder if the people who made this movie even cared. The best part was the Governator. Only a small appearance but all you need to know is Arnold back to being bad was good.

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