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The long-awaited eruption of Anti-mainland tensions in Hong Kong

This is a discussion on The long-awaited eruption of Anti-mainland tensions in Hong Kong within the Members' Club Room forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Originally Posted by MwRYum Try this for size: The "economic benefit" the mainland brings largely gobbled up by large corporations, ...

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    Re: The long-awaited eruption of Anti-mainland tensions in Hong Kong

    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    Try this for size:

    The "economic benefit" the mainland brings largely gobbled up by large corporations, with the general public taking bread crumbs of it at best and nothing filtered down at most; worse, it's the public that has to live with the ill effects -
    1. local citizens getting squeezed out to make way for tourists;
    2. property price hike drive actual inflation (not the gross average, but those that touch the people most) to somewhere in the 40-50% region;
    3. endure the grotesque mannerism exhibited by mainlanders;
    4. mainland mothers who flooded the local medical system not only overloading it, but so many case of "leave without paying" made the locals "pay the bills" in effect;
    5. the dreaded upcoming scheme of allowing mainland drivers drive their cars down to HK for vacation (if not counting in the already congested local road condition, mainland drivers are notoriously known to run you down dead in what should've been minor accidents, among other clear and present threats);

    And those are just tip of the icebergs.

    It's not like in those oil-production dukedoms where the locals are tastings the benefits (call it "bribe" if you may) and living the good life in various forms of government subsidies, the populaces in HK mostly shares no fruit of it and getting the crap-end instead, so can you blame them for hating the mainlanders, REALLY?

    In case that you said it's the government's fault, I'd say yes and a good deal of the anger is directed at the local Administration and the equally impotent Legislation Council (its recent proposal to raise the monthly pay for the members is widely regarded as further insult to the populaces).

    I'm telling you, it's just fermenting a city-wide riot...it's no different than methane gas trap in a sewer system, it just wait for that little spark to trigger a big kaboom...unless the Administration get off their lazy arses and actually do something. If you don't believe me, then means you don't know how much hate is fermenting in local internet and tabloid-level media...wanna guess how long until some kids would lash out in violent fashion?

    In some ways, I don't blame those who claimed to miss the "good'o days" when the British are in-charge - yes those people exists...but then again, there're people missing the "old regimes" of their respective locale everywhere...
    This is how the economy works pretty much everywhere. If Hong Kongers wanted a society where corporations did not grab all the wealth and everyone was equally poor, they should have moved to the Mainland in the 60's and 70's instead of making fun of them.

    If HKers don't want Mainland tourists, why are there so many tour groups and tourist trap shops trying to rip off mainland visitors? Why do these stores gladly accept mainland RMB?

    Everything you described above have nothing to do mainland visitors. These are all problems of HK's own making. If this was a Mainland city, the government would have implemented some measures to fix the problem already. Instead, since HK is a democracy and the politicians are more interested in getting votes, people just keep whining and nothing gets done.

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    Here's food for thought:

    Hong Kong was reverted to Chinese control in 1997, and the One Country, Two System policy is set to expire in 2047.

    What would happen if HK remained the same state as today when the policy expires? (Assuming the PRC political system is still the same.)

    On the other hand, what would happen if HK was turned into an economically inconsequential 3rd-rate city in 2047?

    Which would better suit the CCP?

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    Re: The long-awaited eruption of Anti-mainland tensions in Hong Kong

    Quote Originally Posted by solarz View Post
    What would happen if HK remained the same state as today when the policy expires? (Assuming the PRC political system is still the same.)
    People in HK might decide to join the mainland. Why? People in HK now are having issues with China because many of them lived through both British rule and China's. No matter how better China's policies are, many will still miss what they had before '97. That leads to dissatisfaction etc. Lets='s face it. Like one of the previous posts was saying, there is always people missing the good o' days. Even many Chinese miss what was like in the '60s and '70s. These would be the people who are not getting the benefit of the economic development as well as many others. And they miss the good o' time when everyone was poor and they don't have to feel pity about themselves.

    By 2047, these people will be long gone. Most people in HK at that time will be used to what is like under China control. So the decision will be alot easier than what it is today. Plus, China in 40 years will most definitely be more democratic. So the decision won't be as difficu
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    On the other hand, what would happen if HK was turned into an economically inconsequential 3rd-rate city in 2047?

    Which would better suit the CCP?
    By that time, China will be developed enough that HK won't be such a big factor. In 1997, China was still at an early stage of their development. Having HK was big for them. By 2047, China will have at least 30-40 cities with the size and level of development and sophistication that match that of HK. So China probably won't see it as such a of big deal, while the HKers will most likely spend a lot of time deciding what to do since their ultimate decision will have a much bigger impact on themselves than on mainland China.

    Taiwan would be a good example. 30 years ago, having investment from Taiwan was absolutely critical to China's development. but now? Taiwan depends on China's investment. And China probably won't be thinking too much about a possible economic impact associated now when talking about Taiwan.
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