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Jones Henry

What if it isnt the China-India that are "rising" but instead the EU-USA that are DECLINING, wich is why it only LOOKS as if China-India are on the rise Ever thought about this scenario

Gauntlet

no, because we know that China/India is rising...

Gollevainen

Jones... what did we agreed on these new topics??? Or have you even checked your inbox? Wellif not, i suggest that you do it right away...

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Jones Henry

Well, acually i do belive that the US and the EU are declining, so i did write that stuff based on my own opinions and the facts!

One area in wich they are declining is there birthrates, and another is the R&D sector. The US isnt really afraid of China JUST because of there ecnomic power, but because of Chinas new toys, wich she has mostly purchased from both Russia and Israel. The US KNOWS, that it will be almost imposible to stop China from now gaining nearly peer to peer technology with the US, wich is why they are so "pissed off" with them

Well, altleast i belive, that both the US and the EU are on a decline, or havent you seen the signs Gollevainen? Nokia is still a good company, but probobly because there headed towrads eastern Europe, India and China! Finland is a pretty good expamle of the decline of the west. The biggest reason acually maybe immigration Not ALL immigrants are bad, but for instance Finland dosent really gain a lot from "us" Finlands birthrates are droping, and houses and heathcare are on the rise. Immigration isnt going to stop, and the government will always find exuses on why to tolerate it. Soon theres going to be some MAJOR cuts on healthcare, and the "oldies" will be the first ones to drop, if you undertand what i mean "Gollevainen" Then Finland(like most western countries)will probobly take more immigrants, and cut even more healthcare and services from the indigenous Fins, and then eventually start offshoring more and more production to...well, you take a good guess where

SampanViking

Growth is still growth however you wish to look at it and all the major economies of the world are still; as of today still growing.

You could (if you were tiresome) that the Wests share of growth was declining as the majority of new growth is taken up by China and other emerging nations, but this simply represents a smaller proportion of a much bigger pie and no overall net loss at all.

Out of curiosity - why do you choose to live amongst people you obviously hate? I can assure you if I hated a people with such intensity, their homeland is the last place of abode I would choose.

Jones Henry

Ok, we obviously have different opinions on some issues, but thats no reason to get personal

I still firmly belive, that it is not China-India that are on the rise, but it it indeed the WEST that is on the decline!

The signs have been around in the air for about 5-years now. For instance the US is losing it's innovation and R&D edge. Basicly, the yankees are still stuck somewhere in the 1990s. You can see it for instance with there so called "culture" wich is all about sexs, drugs and violence. No vonder those people arent creative And as for Chinas and Indias so called "power"... well, i personally think it's just all one big hype. I think, that the Chinese might acually be even less creative then before, because there coping so much western technology and ideas, rather then making new ones China and USA for instance are practicly copies of eachotter, with China soon also having a 2-3 party system. Soon India will probobly also join the "super power club" wich acually only is another western copicat And again about ecomic growth mister "sampaviking" what do you think makes it? It's not western "capital" but new innovations! China is growing because the've basicly "stolen" so much high tech that it makes it possible. They will soon on the edge of modern manufacturing and agriculture(the nano age) I really dont think it has much to do with having over 1-billion people, since USA has about 300-million, and there still a super power(or a "hyper power") Will anyway, i still belive, that it is the WEST that is declining(because of the lack of ideas)not CHINA that is on the rise. It's acually an illusion(altleast if you ask me )

Gollevainen

Jones, you obviously didn't got my point...Now answer me, have you or have you not read my personal message i send you last evening...If you have, then start acting like it, or if you haven't then i suggest that you do itr right away...cos if i noticed you not doing so or replying this post whitout noticing what i want to ask you about, your permanent ban comes active right away...understood?

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Jones Henry

Ok! I went there and read your little post. I still think your being hysterical because i can(altleast in my own opinion)pretty much justify my opinions. USA is a bitch, and thats just the truth! I didnt say Communist China is "perfect" only that USA is a bitch, and over 50% of the pople on this forum would no doubt agree with me. I think that atleast in the off toppic colum we should be able to discuss these things openly, because i have PROOF to back up my claims! Anyway, the truth isnt going to go away by hiding it, or with censorship

Gollevainen

Well the most important factor is that no more new topics! You've started new one almoust every day adn they are all pretty much the same. And seccondly equal importance, repect others, even americans (exspecially americans as you are constanly brahsing them) Uderstood? Good, then we can continue...


PS: I don't know about you but if someone making similar threads concerning finland, i would be very pissed of...and this is at the end CHINESE MILITARY forum, so USA being or not being a bad country isent actually the issue. Perhaps you should find a more general politics oriented forum, where you can express your views more openly...

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Jones Henry

Ok ! I was thinking about starting another topic about bioweapons, but never mind! It's just so intrestetting to see how much harm one single "flu" can do to you. I wonder, if that was a Chinese bioweapon, over a thousend times stronger, and activated for instance throw a Chinese cruise missile? Probobly US:s hot shot "missile sield" woundt be able to save it, but then again, it was nothing more then fake and lies from the very begining! Anyway, USA IS Chinas main adversary, that is untill the evil empire collapses! Well, i really dont belive it will take that long. USA has pretty much the same problems as Finland(if we dont count it's CRAZY foreignpolicy!) I think, that especially "balkanisation" will take good care of the evil empire But dont worry;i wont start anothet toppic, but it is true that i HATE USA!!! And by the way;im not a muslim I just dont like white racist, facist or neofacist people thats all!

Gollevainen

...just remember that we are not "anti-america" forum regardless wheter USA is Chinas possiple adversor...your point is taken (you hate america), let's nowonwards concerate on chinese related issues ok?

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Jones Henry

Ok! I by the way was thinking about posting another topic...but didnt It was going to be about wheter America is going to stay in the midle-east or not. This atricle claims they will. I think it has a litle effect on China. The Bush administraison is taking US right in to a conflict! Heres more on the subject:

http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/2005/1014.html

Spartan00006

why do you hate Americans? Just wondering, why you're hate mongering

btw, i'm not an American

Obcession

Jones, I got a suggestion, maybe you should open a new topic called "Jones' articles and opinion on America" and post all of your opinions and articles there. That'll please Goll enough.

bd popeye

Do you really think that some sort of ethnic or race war will erupt in the Untied States?..If so how? Please answer. I can't wait to read that answer.

Please answer the question why you hate the US in a logical manner. Thank you.

There are very few facist or neofacist people in the US. Do you have some statistics to prove this claim?

The US unlike many other nations is multi raical and cutural. I invite you Jones Henry to visit the US. You might actually enjoy it.

Here is a breakdown of the US population

Race and Hispanic/Latino origin as of July 1, 2004,

Total Population 293,622,764

White 235,990,895

African American 37,521,497

American Indian and Alaska Native 2,824,505

Asian 12,337,650

Native Hawaiian & Pacific Islander 505,394

Two or more races 4,442,823

Some other race 15,359,073

Hispanic or Latino 41,329,556 (by definition of the US census buearu a Hispanic person can be of any race. This total is included in the other totals.)

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