This is a discussion on J-20... The New Generation Fighter within the Members' Club Room forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; FAKE ... I know this picture since about 3-4 years ! Deino...
FAKE ... I know this picture since about 3-4 years !
What am I looking at.
I'm guessing what will be the engine exhaust of the JXX prototype: conventional like PAK-Fa and F35 or more "covered" like B2 and F22. I've heard on the net that to reduce the radar and particularly the IF signature of B2 the exhaust gaz are treated with coolant gaz (N2 liquid). Obviously this treatment reduces the engine thrust. Giving the struggle of China in building turbofans wolud be reasonable thinking that the exaust will be standard, but it was said that China got the project of B2 engine bribing a B2 engineer (like all reports of China spying that could be only China bashing, though, and untrue).
Let'see, in any case the exhaust shape will be an indication of how much stealthy the plane will be...
Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet but nothing we don't already know.
Jane's Defence Weekly
Russia, China push fifth-generation fighter programmes to meet year-end milestones
Reuben F Johnson JDW Correspondent - Kiev
A second prototype of the Sukhoi T-50 (PAK-FA) fifth-generation fighter aircraft will make its first flight by the end of this year, according to Russian defence industry spokespersons.
As with the first prototype, this aircraft will be flown initially from the Dzemgi aerodrome adjacent to the Komsomolsk-na-Amure Aviation Production Association. After initial-acceptance test flights, it will be transferred to the Gromov Flight Research Institute in Zhukovsky.
Sukhoi's general director, Mikhail Pogosian, stated that a T-50 will also be flown in a display at the MAKS International Aviation and Space Salon in August 2011.
A source close to the programme told Jane's that "the end-of-the-year deadline may not be met, but the aircraft will fly very soon - either before the end of 2010 or just after the [beginning of the] new year". Russian aircraft programmes - even in Soviet times - have often had year-end deadlines for first flights that came down to near photo finishes.
Meanwhile, rumours have emerged from China's Chengdu Aerospace Corporation (CAC) and the adjoining Aircraft Plant 132 that a Chinese-developed fifth-generation fighter prototype may also fly by the end of the year. Reportedly, two airframes - numbered 2001 and 2002 - have been assembled at the plant.
According to Russian industry sources, the programme - sometimes referred to as 'J-20' - is a joint design effort between CAC and the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, with Chengdu taking the lead on the development.
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Most rumors have been saying that J-20's a joint effort between CAC and SAC... I think you're getting mixed up with the news that SACs design wasn't chosen by PLAAF. They're still subcontractor though (supposedly).
CAC won, but there has always been talk that SAC will get some sub-contracting work to keep it alive. Kinda like how LockMart is subcontracting out work on the JSF to Boeing etc.
Not only subcontract work on J20, some claims are SAC has its own 4th gen multi-role jet in progress.
With their track record, it probably look like a plastic flanker model thats been sat on by a fatty, with some J8II thrown in for good measure...
But maybe they will surprise me one day...not holding my breath tho...
article mention two aircraft,likely hi-low mix,(F-15 and F-16,F-22 and F-35..)
4 years ago, there's CGI drawing of Chengdu Sin-90 appear in the Chinese website,article likely scan from aeronautic magazine.aircraft power by 9500~9700kg thrust engine.the the choice of the engine likely the same mockup 9500kg jet engine that appear in 2008 Zhuhai airshow.
according to kanwa.the aircraft been under develop for the last 6~7 year.a picture of a small 1/45th model undergoing test in wind tunnel appear in the 2002 zhuhai airshow. picture re printed in kanwa.
according to top81,the prototype was seen last year,but still no official confirmation.