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J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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    Millitary tech is a direct function of underlying economy. If no one here is sure about that strange-looking "WS-10a" or "AF-31", then it won't surprise me that it could be a new derivative of WS-10a, produced by a secret parallel project - quite logical though in light of China's economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tch1972 View Post
    You got a point. I don't see why should India be worth the mention here.

    maybe because of the cooperation with russia's pakfa. India's pak fa will be a two-seater with about 25% made in India.

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    The Telegraph should have the integrity to recuse Mr. Praveen Swami, a known strident Indian nationalist, from writing articles about China due to his exhibited anti-China bias. India did not warrant a mention because they are a mere buyer that is contributing money to the project. Using the standard set by Mr. Swami, we can lump Israel and all of the nations participating as buyers and money contributors in the F-35 project as nations possessing stealth technology.

    Mr. Swami's list should either exclude India or include all of the F-35 participating nations. Any other choice is misleading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martian View Post
    The Telegraph should have the integrity to recuse Mr. Praveen Swami, a known strident Indian nationalist, from writing articles about China due to his exhibited anti-China bias.
    The so called India soft power. LOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speeder View Post
    3. In Swami’ world , India is second only to USA in millitary aviation industry, in which China desperately tries to catch up. (Note: the subtitle of the piece is “…China is making rapid progress towards producing a state-of-the-art fighter jet, to compete with the United States, India and Russia”)

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    You nailed it right there and there, buddy! Perhaps his logic is based on: India hopped onto the Russian wagon, have a stake on the PAK-FA project...

    But in the end of the day, China get results when nobody can turn to...and India?
    *cough*
    LCA start about 5 years earlier than J-10 and what we got?
    *cough*
    Enough said.

    Now let's see if there'd be any flight of J-20 tomorrow...by what I've been sniffing through BBS like CJDBY, the fixtures usually associate with first flight was only setting up in noon, so it makes sense not today. But what about tomorrow? That'd depend on how much the CAC wanna keep the big shots waiting I guess...

    And guys, think I just found somethin' not posted here yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    You nailed it right there and there, buddy! Perhaps his logic is based on: India hopped onto the Russian wagon, have a stake on the PAK-FA project...

    But in the end of the day, China get results when nobody can turn to...and India?
    *cough*
    LCA start about 5 years earlier than J-10 and what we got?
    *cough*
    Enough said.

    Now let's see if there'd be any flight of J-20 tomorrow...by what I've been sniffing through BBS like CJDBY, the fixtures usually associate with first flight was only setting up in noon, so it makes sense not today. But what about tomorrow? That'd depend on how much the CAC wanna keep the big shots waiting I guess...

    And guys, think I just found somethin' not posted here yet...


    Ah man!! so many vids in that list, but only a couple have reached the net sofar.

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter

    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    You nailed it right there and there, buddy! Perhaps his logic is based on: India hopped onto the Russian wagon, have a stake on the PAK-FA project...

    But in the end of the day, China get results when nobody can turn to...and India?
    *cough*
    LCA start about 5 years earlier than J-10 and what we got?
    *cough*
    Enough said.

    Now let's see if there'd be any flight of J-20 tomorrow...by what I've been sniffing through BBS like CJDBY, the fixtures usually associate with first flight was only setting up in noon, so it makes sense not today. But what about tomorrow? That'd depend on how much the CAC wanna keep the big shots waiting I guess...

    And guys, think I just found somethin' not posted here yet...
    Definitely not delta wings. More like a mix between delta and trapezoidal wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBird View Post
    Judging from the photos, there are one plane with black nozzle and the other with white nozzle. Wiki also suggests that there are two prototypes; numbered 2001 and 2002. My question is what's the difference between that two engines? Anyone familiar with engines can tell us?
    can anyone post a photo of prototype nš 2002 ?? I havent seen one yet

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    Nice new Uniforms -- Neon Yellow & Black
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    I tink with this pic, you can calculate the length of this beast easy with that towtruck

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    Quote Originally Posted by kroko View Post
    can anyone post a photo of prototype nš 2002 ?? I havent seen one yet
    Actually, no 2002. Two prototype are 2001 but running with different engines.

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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter

    Another angle...


    BTW, some silly journalist popped the J-20 question during the Foreign Affair's daily press conference, of course the spokeswoman told him to ask the military instead...
    http://news.ifeng.com/mainland/detai...048019_0.shtml
    Inquiry #6
    Obviously knock the wrong door but can show clearly J-20 really generate interest in the outside world far more than J-10 did back then.
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    Re: J-20... The New Generation Fighter

    Quote Originally Posted by MwRYum View Post
    Obviously knock the wrong door but can show clearly J-20 really generate interest in the outside world far more than J-10 did back then.
    Duh. J-10 was China's attempt to catch up with her neighbors but the J-20 is the attempt to create a top line fighter capable of competing with the best in the world.

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    From this high-angled view, it's quite clear the J-20 have the planform for high speed. With reasonably powerful engines, it'll be interesting to see how the J-20 will compete with the other stealth fighters purely on speed alone.

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