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Jones Henry · 10-03-2005

After thinking this a lot i've come to the conclusion, the independence is the best choise for Taiwan.

Firs of all, the "anti session" law was a BIG MIKSTAKE because it only makes Taiwan resist more, and could bring the US in to the conflict as well

I think, that if the (clear)majority of the Taiwanse want independence, that it should be given to them. If they want is so much there willing to go to war and kill prossibly millions of Chinese(with WMD:s)in retaliation for a possible Chinese takeover, than i really think they deserve it. China, make peace with Taiwan an execpt Taiwans independence and the unification of the Koreas in the condition that these countries dont allow american military bases in there soil. Since you are both ethnic Chinese im sure Taiwan will return to you someday, when the people are truly ready for that, but this just isnt the time! Not now, with the Iran crisis, and your new "cold war" with the US. This isnt the time and place. When Taiwan is ready, but not now!!!

Red Guard · 10-03-2005

ahhhhhhhhh you have aboslutly no idea what's going on with taiwan, maybe i am biased, but....seriously....not good....

no offence, you just didn't really see the true meaning behind it, it's normal for a western man to not understand it. thank you again for taking interest in chinese affair.

Big_Bad_Walrus · 10-03-2005

If hawaii wanted independence from the USA, will rumsfeld and his necons give it to them??? china has been patient and has not attacked taiwan for 56 years. bush will probably sent A/Cs along with tomahawks to bomb the crap out of hawaii the minute hawaii has intention of declearing independence

apparently u have fell for the necon propaganda. o the big bad communists will start WWIII!!! o they will kill us all!!! o they kill and execute random ppl!!! o the high price for gas is because of them!!!

btw the USA is starting this "new cold war." china hasn't pointed fingers at the USA, only the other way around

MIGleader · 10-03-2005

the us is fostering a impression that taiwan will be indeoendent once it declares independence. but its wrong imporession. if taiwan declared independence, it would be under the same amount of pressure from china. it waould be in fact ruled by the u.s. china needs to build an economic relation with taiwan so powerful, taiwan could not afford a break off. same with japan. thats how china will rule asia.

yoroxiku · 10-03-2005

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Originally Posted by Jones Henry

After thinking this a lot i've come to the conclusion, the independence is the best choise for Taiwan.

Firs of all, the "anti session" law was a BIG MIKSTAKE because it only makes Taiwan resist more, and could bring the US in to the conflict as well

I think, that if the (clear)majority of the Taiwanse want independence, that it should be given to them. If they want is so much there willing to go to war and kill prossibly millions of Chinese(with WMD:s)in retaliation for a possible Chinese takeover, than i really think they deserve it. China, make peace with Taiwan an execpt Taiwans independence and the unification of the Koreas in the condition that these countries dont allow american military bases in there soil. Since you are both ethnic Chinese im sure Taiwan will return to you someday, when the people are truly ready for that, but this just isnt the time! Not now, with the Iran crisis, and your new "cold war" with the US. This isnt the time and place. When Taiwan is ready, but not now!!!

Perhaps ur not chinese. As LONG as PRC still exist Taiwan's independce will never happen whatever u like it or not.

Liberator · 10-03-2005

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After thinking this a lot i've come to the conclusion, the independence is the best choise for Taiwan.

Firs of all, the "anti session" law was a BIG MIKSTAKE because it only makes Taiwan resist more, and could bring the US in to the conflict as well I think, that if the (clear)majority of the Taiwanse want independence, that it should be given to them. If they want is so much there willing to go to war and kill prossibly millions of Chinese(with WMD:s)in retaliation for a possible Chinese takeover, than i really think they deserve it. China, make peace with Taiwan an execpt Taiwans independence and the unification of the Koreas in the condition that these countries dont allow american military bases in there soil. Since you are both ethnic Chinese im sure Taiwan will return to you someday, when the people are truly ready for that, but this just isnt the time! Not now, with the Iran crisis, and your new "cold war" with the US. This isnt the time and place. When Taiwan is ready, but not now!!!

Hey look! He does not know whats going on in Taiwan! Tell you what, MOST Taiwanese does not want independence. Only the flat Chen Sui Bian guy want it and some of his fellowers and citizens that believe Taiwan is a country.

80 percent change USA will butt off with China attacks Taiwan.

Well, if you think some Taiwanese want independence, do you agree to let America be independent from Britain? Thats BS. If you want independence, SIMPLE, fight for it.

Remember, if you support Taiwan, basically proves that you would like to give evil failures a change. WW2 for example, KMT (Now Taiwan) fought the Japs, and they did very well. But in battles lots of KMT generals retreated leaving Chinese soldiers outnumbered. China lose the war cuz of the CRA**Y leader Chaing Kai Sek and his lame words and his lame generals and commanders. Also, that time COmmunist is fighting Japan, and KMT want to destroy Communist because Communist earn to much glory. So, KMT teamed up with Japan (Some). KMT generals left the battle of Nanking half way. Then leaving lots of Chinese people to be killed by Japs.

No offense but, Voting for Taiwan? (Lost your mind)? You're a enemy of China if ur in China.

yoroxiku · 10-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jones Henry

After thinking this a lot i've come to the conclusion, the independence is the best choise for Taiwan.

Firs of all, the "anti session" law was a BIG MIKSTAKE because it only makes Taiwan resist more, and could bring the US in to the conflict as well

I think, that if the (clear)majority of the Taiwanse want independence, that it should be given to them. If they want is so much there willing to go to war and kill prossibly millions of Chinese(with WMD:s)in retaliation for a possible Chinese takeover, than i really think they deserve it. China, make peace with Taiwan an execpt Taiwans independence and the unification of the Koreas in the condition that these countries dont allow american military bases in there soil. Since you are both ethnic Chinese im sure Taiwan will return to you someday, when the people are truly ready for that, but this just isnt the time! Not now, with the Iran crisis, and your new "cold war" with the US. This isnt the time and place. When Taiwan is ready, but not now!!!

If USA wants another "Vietname War" China will give it to them. But the war will be ten times more intense than that. May be the day it comes the earth will be destoryed. USA come on u want the world peace or just a fu#king island

MIGleader · 10-03-2005

henry jones, being from the west(im not rascist), you dont have a clear idea of the true issues between china and taiwan. its a very deep conflict which has more complications than meets the eye. although western people in this forum are free to add their 2 cents on the matter, leave it to the chinese and taiwanese to discuss the matter.

dont make a thread stating your opinion in the title.

Liberator · 10-03-2005

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henry jones, being from the west(im not rascist), you dont have a clear idea of the true issues between china and taiwan. its a very deep conflict which has more complications than meets the eye. although western people in this forum are free to add their 2 cents on the matter, leave it to the chinese and taiwanese to discuss the matter.

dont make a thread stating your opinion in the title.

I agree. Many westerns (US most) does not know bout China. Like in stupid movies. Chinese police got in accurate uniforms and long hair. And Fa Lon Gong. US supporting Fa Lon Gong is BS. Im not racist.

yoroxiku · 10-03-2005

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Originally Posted by Liberator

Hey look! He does not know whats going on in Taiwan! Tell you what, MOST Taiwanese does not want independence. Only the flat Chen Sui Bian guy want it and some of his fellowers and citizens that believe Taiwan is a country.

80 percent change USA will butt off with China attacks Taiwan.

Well, if you think some Taiwanese want independence, do you agree to let America be independent from Britain? Thats BS. If you want independence, SIMPLE, fight for it.

I just want to correct ur statement. , they are affraid to be independet. NOT they does not want independese. Taiwan's economy dies without china. Plus the war will doom the island. Stupid Taiwan wake up!!!!!!!!!! Chinese should not fight against Chinese.

yoroxiku · 10-03-2005

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Originally Posted by MIGleader

the us is fostering a impression that taiwan will be indeoendent once it declares independence. but its wrong imporession. if taiwan declared independence, it would be under the same amount of pressure from china. it waould be in fact ruled by the u.s. china needs to build an economic relation with taiwan so powerful, taiwan could not afford a break off. same with japan. thats how china will rule asia.

CAPITALISM ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Liberator · 10-03-2005

OMG! You double posted! Warned...

Why does Captitalism rocks?

Jones Henry · 10-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIGleader

henry jones, being from the west(im not rascist), you dont have a clear idea of the true issues between china and taiwan. its a very deep conflict which has more complications than meets the eye. although western people in this forum are free to add their 2 cents on the matter, leave it to the chinese and taiwanese to discuss the matter.

dont make a thread stating your opinion in the title.

Acually im an African man living in the "west" and only wanted to warn China! Atleast Taiwans leaders will support independence being driven to do so by the American neocons. Not yeat China! Buy as much time as you can, before facing the United States, even with the support of Russia! Buy time, and make nukes, that can reach americas own soil! Make submarines, that can destroy there aircraft carriers! And even when you are ready to truly HURT America, still wait, untill you have no other choise expect to go to war. Only THEN China, but not before!!!

yoroxiku · 10-03-2005

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Originally Posted by Liberator

OMG! You double posted! Warned...

Why does Captitalism rocks?

Sorrry i didn't mean to double post.

MONEY IS THE POWER agree or not.

Chinese Socialism= Captitalism

Liberator · 10-03-2005

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Acually im an African man living in the "west" and only wanted to warn China! Atleast Taiwans leaders will support independence being driven to do so by the American neocons. Not yeat China! Buy as much time as you can, before facing the United States, even with the support of Russia! Buy time, and make nukes, that can reach americas own soil! Make submarines, that can destroy there aircraft carriers! And even when you are ready to truly HURT America, still wait, untill you have no other choise expect to go to war. Only THEN China, but not before!!!

Need to say, ur mocking China. Chinese tank and destroy Americans, Chinese soldiers an kill Americans, Chinese air planes and destroy Americans, Chinese vehicles and destroy American ones. And you WARNING China?

China gave USA a kick in the butt with just a rifle. Read the Korean war articles. Right now, USA should REALLY strength its military up a lot more. Since their infantries are lazy on the battlefield and their crews are slow, who visit the coffee break all the time in training.

You should really read about Chinese military, don't stand up for the wrong side.

Wanna know how ur mocking China? You said TRULY hurt America, thats a dumb word. You calling 1.3 billion Chinese cannot damage America in strong ways? You calling our high tech weapons worthless against US ones?

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