A global pace plan

Originally Posted by Jones Henry

I think, that both China and the US should agree not to attack either Iran or Taiwan.

They shouldn't have Invaded Iraq

Its not just chian that has good relations with iran but russia and india also.

The US should also starts to draw it's forces from the midle-east, and China there own from the pacific.

What forces in te pacific

This way it's pretty much a 50/50 deal. I really dont see any other way of saving the world from armageddon. Does anyone else have any other peace plans

the US 100 to nothing

I think, that both China and the US should agree not to attack either Iran or Taiwan.

besides china still cant invade taiwan this would be stupid, that would be a greencard for iran to build up nukes

The US should also starts to draw it's forces from the midle-east, and China there own from the pacific. This way it's pretty much a 50/50 deal. I really dont see any other way of saving the world from armageddon. Does anyone else have any other peace plans

and then? hell would break out in middile east and oi prices would climb into the skys
to prevent armageddon: build up abm shield and force china not to expand their 20 icbms

force china to do anything? i dont think so. let the u.s invade iran, they will suffer. pplius they wont have the energy to help taiwan. if they do, bush gets called a war-lover.

the difference is, the u.s does not own iraq and has troops there., china owns its pacific coast, so its allowed to put troops there.

Originally Posted by MIGleader

force china to do anything? i dont think so. let the u.s invade iran, they will suffer. pplius they wont have the energy to help taiwan. if they do, bush gets called a war-lover.

the difference is, the u.s does not own iraq and has troops there., china owns its pacific coast, so its allowed to put troops there.

If the US had an ABM shield, there would be no reason for China to continue building ICBMs.

[QUOTE=Jones Henry]The US should also starts to draw it's forces from the midle-east, and China there own from the pacific. [QUOTE]

China had forces in the Pacific? Enlighten us. Last time I checked it was the US not China.

Originally Posted by ger_mark

besides china still cant invade taiwan this would be stupid, that would be a greencard for iran to build up nukes


and then? hell would break out in middile east and oi prices would climb into the skys
to prevent armageddon: build up abm shield and force china not to expand their 20 icbms

ger_mark whats with all these stupid remarks?

Originally Posted by chinawhite

ger_mark whats with all these stupid remarks?

I agree. ger_mark frivolous comments like that don't do you any credit.

Taiwan agree's that it is part of China but is designated province status with
a lot of freedom to run it's own affairs.
Israel renounces now and forever it's ridiculous claim that God gave it all the land from Iran to Libya. withdraws from the West Bank and Jerusalem is designated an international city. It also ceases it's support for tyrants in the middle east.Holds free and fair elections and grants citizenship to the Palestinians.The muslims recognise israel and remove the embargo.
America removes it's forces from the middle east and it's support for it's tyrants and despots.

All nations begin a program of reducing arms and create a fund for fighting poverty and disease. and work towards forming colonies on mars etc

how about making a international law that all countryes should have liberal and leftist woman in the charge? Would it prevent wars?

this whole conversation is rather silly

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

how about making a international law that all countryes should have liberal and leftist woman in the charge? Would it prevent wars?

this whole conversation is rather silly

like finland you mean.

what's happened with that anyway ?

Originally Posted by chinawhite

ger_mark whats with all these stupid remarks?

why stupid remarks?
its not my fault that u think china is a worldpower or would have any influence in iran crisis

plus this odea is stupid anyway, china cant move back its troops on pacific because they dont have any troops there
the only thing they could do is sinking their fleet, lol

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

how about making a international law that all countryes should have liberal and leftist woman in the charge? Would it prevent wars?

this whole conversation is rather silly

LOL let's do that! But then again there are some very evil and capable women...
The only Queen throughout Chinese history that was officially in power was Wu Ze Tian, she killed A LOT of men and used ruthless policies to stay in power. It is said that every emperor built himself a shrine when he died, carved onto the shrine, the good deeds he did during his life. Wu Ze Tian's shrine didn't have any writings on it.

what's happened with that anyway ?

What do you mean? Tarja is still the president and will be whitout doupt being selected to next season in 2006 elections...

...Or did you mean our former prime minister Anneli Jäätteenmäki? Well she wasen't leftwinger nor liberal, but agral conservative...she went thru a little scandal conserning some documents about Iraq war...

Originally Posted by Gollevainen

What do you mean? Tarja is still the president and will be whitout doupt being selected to next season in 2006 elections...

...Or did you mean our former prime minister Anneli Jäätteenmäki? Well she wasen't leftwinger nor liberal, but agral conservative...she went thru a little scandal conserning some documents about Iraq war...

Hey! I didnt know one of our respected moderators was from Finland Im an African man living in Finland, but my real name isnt "Jones Henry"(I made it up ) Anyway, it's nice to have such an international croud. I personally have very neutral feelings about China. Finish people have been told to hate Russians for hundrets of years, so thats is why they are still a litle "Russofobic" and after WW2 became(in secret)extremely pro american Well anyway, i acually like both China and the US, because both can do plenty of good for Africa. I dont necessarily see the other as evil, while the other as "good" The Soviets for instance did a lot of terrible things to Eastern-Europe and Finland too, while economically helping for instance poor African countries. And without nazi german help Finland could still be a part of Russia. These things are WERY complicated so i am not here to judge, but i still hope and pray for international peace I know, that the Finish people also have similar feelings about both China and the US. Also Russians and Finish are trying to warm up there relations, but it is still hard Finish, give the Russians a change;it was Stalin who ruend Communism and did all those bad things, but one can ofcourse ask, did he have a choise? After all he lived in the time of great depression, starvation and dictators like Hitler practicly in hes nextdoor, and he had no choise expect to stop Hitlet from trying to take over Russia(If Hitler had succeeded, he whould have had all the slavs killed, since they were to him an "inferior" race) Still it does not justify the winter war of 1939. I suppose none of us are without sin. But anyway, USA is the only nation anymore capable of imperialism, wich is why i really dont like them that much anymore I almost hope, that someting bad happens to them(new depression)so they couldnt do stuff like this anymore:

http://afixe.weblog.com.pt/arquivo/Abu7.jpg

Ayway, it's really depressing How could for instanche Finland promote peace between China and USA?

Im an African man living in Finland

a refugee from Somalia i presume then? Man this place starts to be dominated by fins, Me, knarfo, Lavi...

And without nazi german help Finland could still be a part of Russia.

well actually whit out nazi help we would be considerably larger country by geographically and tens of thousend young men wouldnt have died for nothing...