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Jones Henry · 10-07-2005

There is an old rule in dilpomacy;is one party becomes too strong, others will alliance against her.

Nothing personal against the US, but this is how the game has been for the past 5000-years! Yes! A lot of US lovers(like bad popey)will now call my zelos "yanky hater" but this is just how it is! Did you really think, that a game that has been played since ancient times was going to be changed just to suit the US

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When the Berlin wall fell down, there was cheeres in the east, but even more worrisome faces in the west. Wise men and women knew that the day would come, where the world would have to alliance against the US, because it simply had become too powerfull, but that day had not yet come. But now is has!

This really isnt anything personal against average americans, but like i said, this is simply how the "game" has always been played! In part you(like bad popey)are responsible for this! You should have demandet that Bush would be impeach IMMIDIETLY when he attacked Iraq! It was a HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION! Yeat you did nothing! It's too late now! The game has already started!

I dont know will there be a world war. That is possible. The US might not voluntarily give up it's "empire" so there could be a nuclear exchange among major powers, and because of increasing immigration in to the "west" no missile shiled will this time(if it ever did)truly be able to project the US and her allies. If this ever turns in to a global war it will destroy the west for good! Ofcourse millions of people will also die in developing countries, but it will not change the outcome of the war. And this isnt just about Iraq! Even before Iraq, even before 9/11 wise people knew there would be trouble! America is in danger mostly because of it's own arrogance and greed. The Iraq war only proofed, how far this corruption has gone in America! America is no more suitable to be "world police"

Yes, i know a lot of yankees will disagree with me(and want to have me BANNED!) It only proves how corrupted they are, because they just cant take any short of constructive critisism anymore. So much for that freedom of speech

Anyway it has now began;the world vs America! Not ofcourse all countries in the world want to destroy America! America can still be wery useful to many countries(untill it finally collapses) For instanche Japan and India will be armed with American weapons against China(but they wont use them untill American dominance in the world is over)And then there Mexico, that just LOVES America! Mexico and the hole South-America can now dump all there "left over population" to America! For Mexico America truly is a gold mine! But there will become a day, when even Mexico will turn against America. She is like a parasite benefiting from the host, but at somepoint she is going to let go. In time it will become even in her intrests to get ride of America.

A possible war with Iran will greatly advange the cause of American enemys(mostly led by China) India is an American parthner, that clearly benefits from the US-China cold war, but they are not as stupid as many Americans think. They will probobly at some point reveal there true cards:A Sino-Indian alliance against the US! China and India have probobly created the illusion that they are "rivals" wich the west so eagerly is buying! In the end it will benefit both parties, because neither China or India wishes to "dominate" Asia. They dont have "dominance" build in there culture the same way as in the west. They will sedle for a 50/50 deal, but now ofcourse India will be pleased to have military aid from America

As for Japan, why should Japan alliance her self against China? She has been waiting for a LONG TIME to get back at the US, and i think even politicans in Washigton KNOW THIS! Japan used the "original" cold war between the US and USSR to strenghten her self waiting for the right time. And now it FINALLY has arrived;A Sino-US cold war! Japan knows China has no choise;It must expect Japan as an equal in the pacific! So instead of two major Asian powers there will soon be three;India, China and Japan! All arming themselves hysterically with the state of the art(American?)weapons getting ready for the final showdown!

Wise men and women in Washigton KNOW that there famous American "empire" is finished, because America was never ment to be an "empire" in the first place! It's is all just a ploy and a dirty game! The terrorists were the only once who benefited from the Iraq war;take a GOOD look at the map:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/09/0...baghdad.lg.jpg

As you can see, Iraq is the middle of the entire middle-east! It's like moving right in to the terrorists neighbourhood! It's like a dream come true to the terrorists;terrorists in Syria, Saudi-Arabia and Iran can now move right next door to kill American soldiers and muslim "quislings" and this is why the slauhgter will NEVER stop! George Bush junior has made once a relatively stable Iraq in to terrorist magnet

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The sun is begining to set for America. Not for just the American "empire" but for the United States as well! Next year it will be 230-years since the declaration of indepence. I'm sure that the founding fathers and there descendants got more than they bargend for! The United states will eventually collapse just like the Soviet Union did. It will only take about 20-years now, and it will be a reality(most likely even before that) Many Americans(especially now on this forum)will now say, that im a "racist" against Americans. And in a way they are right! I belive, that YOU "average" Americans are the once TRULY responsible for this! YOU should have stopped Bush when he invadet Iraq and maybe even before that, maybe even before 9/11! You shouldnt have chosen a "globalist" America, but you did, and this is the price you, your leaders and the hole world will have to ultimately pay! There is now turning back now(even thow many Americans would surdenly want to)And if you thing forerign powers cannot hurt your country, then if advice you remember 9/11. But dont worry;the world dosent want to "destroy" America. No, as long as it an be a usefull tule to powerfull forces aiming to rule the world(Asian and Jewish bisnesmen)When America is no more useful, theres truly no reason for a war;the system will collapse by itself anyway!

Anyway, the game has already began! It's now a manner of who will rule the world when America is no more? China and India will ne two WERY big players, and a new more modern Japan will to have a part of the cake two. Israel will try to get as much hich tech from America as possible before the collapse(wich it will probobly then sell to China after all, they are business partners, and Israel really dosent care a s**** about Taiwan!) Muslim extremists also need America. An attack on Iran will justify global jihad uniting all muslims once again! This is TOTAL WAR wich might even make Hitler and hes games look like a picnic!

But all this is not inportant. The only TRULY inportant thing is immigration to America and the west! ALL else is just a camouflage, a distraction! China or any other country is not going to launch ballistic missiles to the US any more than king Agamemnon did to invade Troy. No, EVERTHYING will be taken care of by the immigrants

Americas most deadliest gift to the world was not the bombs dropped in Hiroshima or Nagasaki! No, it was globalism(the free movement of peoples, money and ideas)THAT is the reason for Chinas "power" Her new toys, her wealth exetra exetra! The American "mahchine" is fueling China and other third world countries the same way it fuels terrorism in the midle-east! And eveltually, when America is too weak to be any use to the powers that be, it will eliminated! There economy will collapse, and the entire American system fall in to other anarcy and caos! The end for the "hyper power" that was going to guide the children of god towards a brider future and the next step in human evolution!

It will happen, and it will happen soon! And yes, all HELL will break loose once it happens, but it WILL happen, because America just wasnt build for this! But the gates of Troy are allready open, and it's time fo finish the game. Soon, WERY soon it wil ALL be over!

Aluka · 10-07-2005

I am agree only with one point - today's world is a shit. But i do not share your optimism about collapse of USA. How does it suppose to happen? And how do you know that america wasn't made for this? USA, i believe, was founded by secret societies, and was founded exactly to rule the world. To think of it - i even do not want america to collapse, this will most likely drive this world to the first truly worldwide war.

ger_mark · 10-07-2005

Henry Jones, this post is 80 years to late!

bd popeye · 10-07-2005

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Nothing personal against the US, but this is how the game has been for the past 5000-years! Yes! A lot of US lovers(like bad popey)will now call my zelos "yanky hater" but this is just how it is! Did you really think, that a game that has been played since ancient times was going to be changed just to suit the US

I never called you a Yankee hater. I said your hatred of the US is ovoious. I don't call people names. That's for children.

Another thing. You keep mentioneing my name. Young man you don't even know me. To say it's my & other Americans fault that Pres Bush was not impeached is ludricous. You know nothing of American politics. It's not that simple.

You keep expressing opinions about the US and our posible like or dislike like of one country or another. If you ever came to the US you would find that the people in the US really don't spend a lot of time worring about what's going on in the rest of the world. Sad but true.

Aluka asked you a question. Just how is this collaspe of the US suposed to take place? We all wait an answer.

Thank you.

Jones Henry · 10-07-2005

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Originally Posted by Aluka

I am agree only with one point - today's world is a shit. But i do not share your optimism about collapse of USA. How does it suppose to happen? And how do you know that america wasn't made for this? USA, i believe, was founded by secret societies, and was founded exactly to rule the world. To think of it - i even do not want america to collapse, this will most likely drive this world to the first truly worldwide war.

America will collapse just like the Soviet union did. One simply word...corruption! I dont think the third world really needs terrorist agents in America. Infact 9/11 did us more harm then good, and greatly advanced the cause of our enemyes. Those who want to "save" America and the "west"

American collapse will(and has already)happen quitly. I personally am acually against terrorism. Even thow i know that the "third world" can hurt America and the west with terror, we should not use it. After all, America(for now)is not planning on nuking Sout-America, Asia, Africa or the midle-east. And neither do we want to "nuke" USA from within. That would not serve our true purpose!

But immigration and lowering birth rates in the "west" will slowly do the job for us. The likelyhood of a military coup arrises the more "colored" the americas army becomes. I think, that the system will collapse on it's own, so im against a military intervention. And as or what happens after that...well, they'll probobly be some short of a collapse i suppose

Empires fall and empire rise. It's really not such a big deal

bd popeye · 10-07-2005

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But immigration and lowering birth rates in the "west" will slowly do the job for us. The likelyhood of a military coup arrises the more "colored" the americas army becomes. I think, that the system will collapse on it's own, so im against a military intervention. And as or what happens after that...well, they'll probobly be some short of a collapse i suppose Empires fall and empire rise. It's really not such a big deal

You are right about the birth rate in the west. Actually the white birth rate is worldwide is declining...I can't find a link at this time. But I know that of all the raical groups in the US the white birthrate is the lowest.

As for a more colored military. The racial breakdown of the US military is not at all in line with the US population. The US military is 38% "colored"...Think about it.

MIGleader · 10-07-2005

this is way out of line!!! to much imagination

jones, whyu do you hate america so much? even i dont hat it so much.
did the bad treatment of New orleans blacks impact your opinion?

bd popeye · 10-07-2005

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this is way out of line!!! to much imagination

I agree former "homeboy" from San Diego MIGleader. This is too far fetched. We all should just stay away from this type of thread.

hey Jones..Just like MIGleader asked..Just why do you hate the US so much any way?

EternalVigil · 10-07-2005

I can see this Jones guy is a complete idiot.

FriedRiceNSpice · 10-07-2005

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Originally Posted by ger_mark

Henry Jones, this post is 80 years to late!

What do you mean by that?

MIGleader · 10-07-2005

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Originally Posted by FriedRiceNSpice

What do you mean by that?

i think thats when america started giving up her ideas of an empire, because it was to interested in making money in the stock market.

Jones Henry · 10-07-2005

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Originally Posted by bd popeye

You are right about the birth rate in the west. Actually the white birth rate is worldwide is declining...I can't find a link at this time. But I know that of all the raical groups in the US the white birthrate is the lowest.

As for a more colored military. The racial breakdown of the US military is not at all in line with the US population. The US military is 38% "colored"...Think about it.

The "American collapse" will ofcourse be because of several reasons. The attack on Iran will be VERY expensive, even if America firstly uses only nukes! It will mean global jihad, and most likely also terrorist attacks on Americas own soil.

As for a war with China and Russia, it will also at the least cause an arms race, and the American economy is allready it pretty bad shape. As for what happens INDISE the wals of "new rome" well...it's not just about colore! Blacks or latinos are not going to riot JUST because they become a majority some day. But the racial tension is there! Ironicly whites will probobly cause the future "civil war 2" by them selves! I've read quite a lot American newspapers and internet columns. WASP(White midle class) arrogance towards coloreds is truly stunning! They are openly in the time of American peril promoting a "war" against the colored immigrants for instance in California:

http://www.saveourstate.org/

So from my point of few there BEGING for it, and will indeed soon get what they deserve! And that goes for the other countries in the "west" as well! We coloreds acually wouldnt want a conflict, but in many cases we simply have no choise! Open racism and "wasp" arrogance towards coloreds is growing! I suppose they belive, that for instanche in America there going to unite even blacks against the latino "invaders" Heh, there asahoes are going to be in for a BIG suprise

Jones Henry · 10-07-2005

Anyway, it is the whites who have "imperialism" and "dominance" build within there culture. That is the belive, that America should inforce "Pax America" against other nations with arms. This imperialism is a result of WHITE culture, and has truly no place among Asians, Latinos or Blacks! So, a litle change in Americas and the "wests" racial mix up should be able to resolve this "imperial" dilemma i belive

EternalVigil · 10-07-2005

Sigh :/

ger_mark · 10-07-2005

lol henry
since u are a refugee i think that you never had the chance to visit a school
or am i wrong ?

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