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maozedong · 07-06-2009

URUMQI: At least 140 people were killed and 828 others injured in riots that erupted in the capital of the Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region on Sunday night, officials said Monday.( Chinadaily.com.cn )

Death toll in Xinjiang riot rises to 140

above report more than shocking, this is the Xinjiang region of China for many years the most serious riots,and this is China for many years the most serious incidents of violence and terror, it seems that the future of the Xinjiang region of China there will be more violence.

T-U-P · 07-06-2009

NO POLITICAL DEBATES/COUNTRY BASHING/FANATICAL SCREAMING OR ELSE

bd popeye · 07-06-2009

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Originally Posted by T-U-P

NO POLITICAL DEBATES/COUNTRY BASHING/FANATICAL SCREAMING OR ELSE

I'll second that motion!

Here's some photos of the unfortunate situation in Xinjiang.

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A group of Chinese paramilitary police patrol in Urumqi, western China's Xinjiang province, Monday, July 6 , 2009. Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into riots.

Police sealed off streets in parts of the provincial capital, Urumqi, after discord between ethnic Muslim Uighur people and China's Han majority erupted into violence.

Locals took to the streets of Xinjiang's regional capital, Urumqi, burning and smashing vehicles and confronting security forces, following a protest there to denounce government handling of a clash between Han Chinese and Uighur factory workers in far southern China in late June, when two Uighurs died. China has called a riot that shook the capital of restive western Xinjiang region on Sunday a plot by exiled members of the Uighur people, after at least three people died in the latest eruption of ethnic unrest there.

China calls ethnic unrest that killed 140 in China's western Xinjiang region a plot against its power, and a high profile Chinese Uighur exiled in Taiwan says Beijing has "poured oil on the flame" of ethnic unrest.

panzerkom · 07-06-2009

Well, according to CNN, it's a peaceful demonstration against discrimination?

Scores killed in ethnic unrest in China - CNN.com

bd popeye · 07-06-2009

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Well, according to CNN, it's a peaceful demonstration against discrimination?

Scores killed in ethnic unrest in China - CNN.com

What?? Apparently they are ignoring the violence as seen on CCTV.

Semi-Lobster · 07-06-2009

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What?? Apparently they are ignoring the violence as scene on CCTV.

I believe the story goes from the Uighers that the initial protest was a peaceful demonstration against a violent incident in Guangdong at a factory between several Uighur and and Han Chinese coworkers that was escalated by severe police action which led to where we are now

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Scores killed in China protests

petty officer1 · 07-06-2009

All news agency say there are two side of story, the Chinese official side claim it was a protest turned nasty then Uighers start to riot, the Uighers says that the PLA opened fire on peaceful protesters/ Situation is quickly deteriorating. Confirmed death up to 140. this is worse than the tibet incident...

bd popeye · 07-06-2009

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Confirmed death up to 140.

Horrible..

I just read this below. Follow the link for the full story.

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Police restore order in western China; 156 killed - Yahoo! News

Police restore order in western China; 156 killed

By WILLIAM FOREMAN, Associated Press Writer William Foreman, Associated Press Writer – 56 mins ago
URUMQI, China – Chanting "Strike down the criminals," hundreds of paramilitary police with shields, rifles and clubs took control of the streets Monday in the capital of western China's Muslim region, a day after the deadliest ethnic violence in decades.

State media said at least 156 people were killed in the unrest, which did not bode well for China's efforts to mollify long-simmering ethnic tensions between the minority Uighur people and the ethnic Han Chinese in Xinjiang — a sprawling region three times the size of Texas that shares borders with Pakistan, Afghanistan and other Central Asian countries.

As darkness fell, security forces became especially tense and ordered residents off the roads near the main gate at Xinjiang University — the scene of some of the worst clashes Sunday.

As people watched from an apartment building across from the school, riot police in green camouflage uniforms and helmets pointed long sticks at the gawkers and barked, "Close those windows!"

Mobile phone service and the social networking site Twitter were blocked, and Internet links were also cut or slowed down. Some videos were posted on YouTube.

The government often says the Uighurs should be grateful for the roads, railways, schools, hospitals and oil fields it has been building in Xinjiang, a region known for scorching deserts and snowy mountain ranges.

Many Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gers) haven't been wooed by the rapid economic development. Some want independence, while others feel they're being marginalized in their homeland. The Han — China's ethnic majority — have been flooding into Xinjiang as the region becomes more developed.

"The Han Chinese say we all belong to the same country. We're all part of one big family," said Memet, a restaurant worker who like other Uighurs declined to give his full name because he feared the police. "But the Han always treat us separately."

A Han Chinese shopkeeper, who only gave his surname Wang because the ethnic issue is so sensitive, disagreed. "Those who cause such trouble are criminals," he said. "They're never happy with what they have."

Sunday's violence was notable because it happened in Xinjiang's capital, Urumqi, which has been relatively peaceful and hasn't been a hotbed of religious or political agitation. In other restive Xinjiang cities, red propaganda banners are filled with slogans encouraging ethnic harmony. But most of the banners in Urumqi touted anti-drug and fire prevention campaigns.

The population of 2.3 million is also overwhelmingly Han Chinese in the city, a mixture of drab concrete apartment blocks and gleaming new office towers.

The latest unrest began after 1,000 to 3,000 protesters — mostly students — gathered downtown at the People's Square and protested the June 25 deaths of Uighur factory workers killed in a riot in southern China. Xinhua said two died; others say the real figure was higher.

"There were several hundred people who marched past my shop. I didn't feel threatened. They were peaceful and chanting, 'Uighurs will be victorious,'" said a convenience store clerk who only gave her surname, Zhang.

Poor quality amateur video purportedly showing a surging crowd of hundreds running through traffic. It was shot from an upper floor of a building and was posted on YouTube.

yehe · 07-06-2009

Ethnic tentions have always been high in Xinjiang, problem is alot of the Uigher doesnt even speak chinese, thus they cant get job, in turn they feel discriminated. Many uneducated also became criminals in thieving and robbing gang operating across all major cities in China, which also deteriorate thier reputations among the Han chinese, the fact that Uighers have a tradition of violence, are very xenophobic(Not just against Han chinese, but against the Kazak and Huis as well I have heard) and are allowed to carry knifes(a law garanteed tradition for some minority people in China) doesnt help either.
Its like a big cirlce of evil that can feed it self.

Anyway, this incident wont help Uigher reputation much I am afraid. Only way is to step up the education level and they should shut down those muslim imam run schools in southern Xinjiang, they dont teach chinese or anything that can prepare them for a life in a cosmopolitan city, they are just like those religious schools run by the Taliban in Afganistan and Pakistan wich those region boards.

Baibar of Jalat · 07-06-2009

Seems like someone messed up and ordered the troops to fire. Riots tend to occur in other nations, however the death toll is light in comparison. China does not lack riot police and know how to handle riots, but someone messed up.

Obcession · 07-06-2009

Are those PAP? Can anyone identify?

Supposedly the immediate cause of the riot was that a group of Han migrant workers were arguing with two Uighur migrant workers accused of raping a Chinese girl. When the argument got heated the two Uighurs were killed, thus causing Uighurs in Urumqi to protest and riot.

mpaduan79 · 07-06-2009

from my sources that some 250-300 Uighur fighter from NWP and Helmand are "missing" due to military operation or they have cross Kakoram mountains already.....maybe those chinese taliban will bring the fight to their home land.......:

nono:

cheers

victtodd · 07-06-2009

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Originally Posted by Baibar of Jalat

Seems like someone messed up and ordered the troops to fire. Riots tend to occur in other nations, however the death toll is light in comparison. China does not lack riot police and know how to handle riots, but someone messed up.

If it was the case, why most of the dead were Ethnic Han Chinese and Hui? Why most of the dead were clubbed or stabbed to death, instead of being shot?

mpaduan79 · 07-06-2009

maybe the fight is with Han/Hui and the police bcz social unrest and poor living condition upset by the current economy....from the photo provided i can't see any Uighur people among the protestor

Obcession · 07-06-2009

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maybe the fight is with Han/Hui and the police bcz social unrest and poor living condition upset by the current economy....from the photo provided i can't see any Uighur people among the protestor

No. It's ethnic riot, we know for sure. It's caused by the two Uighurs being killed in a Guangzhou toy factory in a dispute with other Chinese.

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