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    China's new Type 99A2 Main Battle Tank


    China's new Type 99A2 MBT (main battle tank) should be comparable to America's most-advanced M1A2 Abrams MBT.


    China's Type 99A2 MBT is more advanced than the older American model M1A2 in at least one respect. Notice the reactive armor on the side of the Type 99A2 turret to enhance its survivability against "shaped charges." This feature is absent on the M1A2.

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    China's original Type 99A1 MBT is widely believed to be comparable to the U.S. M1A1 MBT. China's Type 99A1 MBT carries an expensive price tag of $2.5 million per tank, which is in the ballpark figure for an U.S. M1 Abrams.

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    ZTZ99 - Army Technology

    "Type 99 is similar, in a lot of specifications, to the M1A1 tank and the Western Leopard 2. Western influences have been noticed in the angular welded turret ..."

    [Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the pictures.]

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    China's Type 99A2 Main Battle Tank in mass production


    A closer look at China's new Type 99A2 Main Battle Tank (MBT). Another subtle Type 99A2 MBT design improvement is that the armored skirt panels cover the top half of the wheels. If necessary, reactive armor can be placed over the armored skirt panels to provide more protection. On the American Abrams, the wheels are left exposed.


    As the Type 99A2 MBT rolls past...


    A second Type 99A2 MBT can be seen.


    Oh my gosh! It looks like there's an entire tank battalion of Type 99A2 MBTs!

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    tandeem warhead can defeat ERA.case in point,2006 israel hezbollah war,according to israel new generation of russian anti tank missile particular these fitted with tandeem warhead to israel surprise,able to penetrate ERA protected tank.
    what the tank need was ADS.pciture appear in the internet showing the tank fitted with radar,but without her kill mechanism.

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    sure challenge, whatever you say

    Martian, that's a good summary despite the tabloid style writing

    wish we can update sinodefence front page if we pool the knowledge
    there a whole bunch of stuffs happening that are making sinodefence page obsolete, if not already for a long time
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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    then their should be a page dedicated to that and sorry to get off topic here

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    good idea, pooling and fact check thread, but its up to the mods and admin, and access to web page codes, my last ot about this, if the mod feels there is a chance this happening, let them make a special thread for it

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by challenge View Post
    what the tank need was ADS.pciture appear in the internet showing the tank fitted with radar,but without her kill mechanism.
    what is ADS ?

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kroko View Post
    what is ADS ?
    Active Defense System?

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Martian View Post
    China's new Type 99A2 Main Battle Tank
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    China's Type 99A2 MBT is more advanced than the older American model M1A2 in at least one respect. Notice the reactive armor on the side of the Type 99A2 turret to enhance its survivability against "shaped charges." This feature is absent on the M1A2.
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    A closer look at China's new Type 99A2 Main Battle Tank (MBT). Another subtle Type 99A2 MBT design improvement is that the armored skirt panels cover the top half of the wheels. If necessary, reactive armor can be placed over the armored skirt panels to provide more protection. On the American Abrams, the wheels are left exposed.
    [Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the pictures.]
    Much as I agree that Chinese tanks are under-armored, how can you tell that the skirts are now armor skirts rather than the same old rubber ones? They look the same to me.

    Based on the picture which shows part of the front of the tank, does the driver's position looks like it's on the left to anyone else?

    Could the chassis be a hybrid of the Type 96 chassis (based on the driver position and rear vents) and the T-72/Type 99 chassis (based on road wheel spacing)?

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    The Tusk Upgrades adds NERA panels too the M1A2 and M1A1 Abrams mbt's.
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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    russian technical manual (which later reprint in International defense review) show that combinaion of rubber and steel plate can defeat 20mm~25mm calibre gun.
    but most of Type-99 do not carry ADS,around 2008,article appear in wmf,about the ADS kill mechanism.it uses "shoot gun" type to shower and destroy incoming RPG or ATGM.
    in December 2011 issue of Asia-Pacific Defence magazine,while T-90MS still uses carousel auto loader,it completely redesign,it incorporate armour belt around auto loader.another spare ammo are relocated to storage box located in the back of the turrent.
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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    There are different kill methods for ADS, Some use the Shotgun effect others guided kinetic energy projectiles others guided bombs.
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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kroko View Post
    what is ADS ?
    To add my previous reply, he probably meant something like this :

    K-2 - APS (Active Protection System)
    IMI - Iron Fist APS
    RAFAEL - Trophy APS

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    The below pix were posted at mp.net by mpleio. If these photos do not belong in this thread let me know. Thanks!!

    China latest export version MBT: MBT-2000 improved















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    Tank commander seat:

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    looks neat! probably the best budget tank around

    wish i know more to identify the consoles and their quality, this is a complete shot of the baby, driver, gunner, TC all there

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    Re: New Type98/99 MBT thread

    It looks really neat, modern and very...er, Westernized.

    Folks at Taiwan are already showing their jealousy by calling it "M1-copy"...

    But using the commander's AAMG as reference, this looks not much bigger than the Japanese Type 10 MBT.

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