Mobs attack XinJiang, PRC police station

Those aren't mobs... they've killed two policemen and two hostages. If those aren't terrorists I don't know what qualifies as terrorists.

Originally Posted by siegecrossbow

Those aren't mobs... they've killed two policemen and two hostages. If those aren't terrorists I don't know what qualifies as terrorists.

Yeah, I don't know why they're called "mobs" or "rioters". Mis-translation from Chinese, perhaps? Those are clearly terrorists.

Mobs are not that organized. Are these possibly "outside agitators"???..trying to drum up trouble like two years ago??

Originally Posted by solarz

Yeah, I don't know why they're called "mobs" or "rioters". Mis-translation from Chinese, perhaps? Those are clearly terrorists.

I am not quite sure about that. Terrorist is someone who targets civilians. When someone target government organs, it's something else.

Originally Posted by nemo

I am not quite sure about that. Terrorist is someone who targets civilians. When someone target government organs, it's something else.

No, government workers, including Law Enforcement, are very much civilians.

Originally Posted by nemo

I am not quite sure about that. Terrorist is someone who targets civilians. When someone target government organs, it's something else.

Most government organs contain mostly civilians. Also, would you not call the Cole bombing or the Beirut bombing acts of terrorism?

Originally Posted by nemo

I am not quite sure about that. Terrorist is someone who targets civilians. When someone target government organs, it's something else.

Dude. Going by your definition the Sept. 11 attack on the Pentagon is not a terrorist attack and neither is the attack on U.S.S. Cole.

Originally Posted by bd popeye

Mobs are not that organized. Are these possibly "outside agitators"???..trying to drum up trouble like two years ago??

Same thoughts as I read the title of this thread. This one SHAN'T garner any "sympathy" from the international community because clearly there's nothing to sympathize about when they take hostages. And I don't think mobs take hostages. That already is not your usual ways of day-to-day protests.

Originally Posted by solarz

Yeah, I don't know why they're called "mobs" or "rioters". Mis-translation from Chinese, perhaps? Those are clearly terrorists.

Yes, it's a mistranslation. The Chinese report says, literally "a group of religious extremists carrying jihadist slogans, swords, axes, molotov cocktails among other weapons." I think they translated the words 一群， which means a group or a bunch of something into mob.

"Terrorism" is a politcal term these days. So don't expect those that have geo-political agendas to see anything that follows the definition of the word to be seen as terrorism if it happens to people they don't like. If you're looking for someone to see the Chinese as victims of terrorism, they're not going to do it. So don't bother.

Latest news indicate that they shot and killed 14 terrorists.

Originally Posted by bd popeye

Mobs are not that organized. Are these possibly "outside agitators"???..trying to drum up trouble like two years ago??

BP, we two nations got many different opinions on many things, but when an ordinary US citizen knows where to look out for the bad guys this time, I am truly supprised and appreciated.

In China, there is wrongly resentment that anything bad happens on earth, America is behind it; but it dose add salt to the wound when US govt never waste a minute to back up this kind of, "mob" or "peaceful protesters", on its own agenda.

Originally Posted by siegecrossbow

Latest news indicate that they shot and killed 14 terrorists.

Even having different political opinions, when US and coalition force hunt down extremist jihadist, Chinese news report it as true as " ** terrorists being killed"; It is a good dream when hoping western media report it as of the way siege put it.


Edit:

I think there is a mis-interpret. The word "mob" is a relatively small thing in English dictionary; "riot" and "rioters" 暴乱，暴乱分子 is a BIG thing, in Chinese dictionary.

The Chinadaily used the exact correct word (rioters) while normal English society don't feel that much of it and outright consider it as light as merely mob. Especially when in the west, if a shoping mall is offering low price goods and people crowed the place like hell, people already describe the scene as "riot" and the non-criminal people as "mob". (half-joking, as long as you get the idea)

Worse thing is China media can't freely use the word "terrorist" until the authority deems the situation is chaos enough (which is not in this case). Bad guys virtually "running away" by culture differences.

if you report those who were killed were carrying jihiadi signs and weapons, the context changes and suddenly there will be more sympathy for the chinese, just simply because suddenly "we" are fighting a common enemy.

and i guess all those years of CT drills finally paid off. 3 casualty counts can be considered low, especially places like india, moscow and other CT ops around the world often see a higher number.

Originally Posted by airsuperiority

if you report those who were killed were carrying jihiadi signs and weapons, the context changes and suddenly there will be more sympathy for the chinese, just simply because suddenly "we" are fighting a common enemy.

and i guess all those years of CT drills finally paid off. 3 casualty counts can be considered low, especially places like india, moscow and other CT ops around the world often see a higher number.

To be fair the terrorists weren't carrying firearms. Guess the firearms ban pays off in a situation like this.