China Takes home World Sniper Cup. 2011

Originally Posted by TerraN_EmpirE

Last year China Took Third.
If any one wants Extra confirmation
No Word on What they Shot in the competition Last Year They Apparently Used Remington rifles likely 700 series bolt actions.

I thinks it this rifle they were using



this version



is the one in the middle

I take it the Chinese team member is the one on the fair left based on what they wore last year? Wow, only seemed a while back when we were amazed by the Chinese team coming 3rd, and now they have truly exceeded all expectations!

It is a bit annoying that there are no good photos out yet, hopefully they will surface soon.

It is very hard to tell from that one photo, especially since the rifle is black and its hard to make out any detail.

Just from the general shape, its hard to tell conclusively if its a FY-JS or the same Remington as what they used last year.

The only distinguishing feature that could be made out is the unusually long scope. That may just be a new scope, or it might just be evidence that this is a FY-JS, because if you look at the rifle in the middle of this image, you can see that the small rail on the barrel is actually there to allow a thermal or night vision scope to be added to the normal scope quickly for night ops.



They could have just used that rail to add another scope on, maybe for better magnification.

However, the stock does not curve down like the FY-JS, that may be because of the angle of the shot, but it would be because it is not a FY-JS.

Could still be a Chinese rifle, as this model looks pretty similar, although I did not managed to find out what its name is. I just called it the the FY-JSB since it seems to be a version of the FY-JS.



Bottom line is that it is an amazing achievement with the Remington, if they used a Chinese rifle, that's just gravy on top, and may well stir up a lot of international interest for the rifle. Wonder how American gun nuts would react to a Chinese made rifle being the one to win the sniper world cup.

second one from the left



far right

So they went with all black (or dark navy) instead of camo as last year. Would be interesting to find out why, is this a PAP or PLAN SF team this year instead of a PLA unit? Or did they just fancy a change?

But no doubt that it is the FY-JS, what an accomplishment, and what an advertisement. Bet the company making the FY-JS is positively rubbing their hands at all the international interest this win will generate.

Speaking of which, that means the effort made into this really bear fruit...below is the CCTV vid about how they made a 3-year preparations to make a winning comeback last year (according to the interview within, the first time was a disaster):


Apart from the unconventional methods of training, within shows a mix of weapons, QBU-88, Type-85, Remington 700 series, and the 5.8mm bolt action.

Originally Posted by plawolf

Bottom line is that it is an amazing achievement with the Remington, if they used a Chinese rifle, that's just gravy on top, and may well stir up a lot of international interest for the rifle. Wonder how American gun nuts would react to a Chinese made rifle being the one to win the sniper world cup.

That 5.8mm bolt action is in fact a private venture, not a military sanctioned project, and thus far only some PAP outfits fielded them is relatively small numbers. Your pic was shown when it was first displayed in exhibition a few years back, actually that's a ballistic testing rig with fibre glass body to get some feedback from potential clients, the black one (production / pre-production model?) came out later. Not much is known about how this 5.8mm bolt action rifle perform, but according to some Chinese BBS posts I've read, they said (quoting those who took part in the competition) they still prefer the Remington 700 series over that...

Military is definitely using these rifles







looks like every other person has one

Solid haul. Let's hope the PLA snipers are as well trained as these guys were.

But I wonder, how do these sniper competitions in comparison to real life sniper scenarios? I've always imagined western countries would have superior snipers for some reason, and the fact they did quite dissapointingly recently is rather strange. Or is it that they are not sending their best? o.O

Does anyone know if everyone uses the same weapons at these events? That would say a lot since you always hear that Chinese make low quality weapons and they were using them in this event.

Originally Posted by Bltizo

Solid haul. Let's hope the PLA snipers are as well trained as these guys were.

But I wonder, how do these sniper competitions in comparison to real life sniper scenarios? I've always imagined western countries would have superior snipers for some reason, and the fact they did quite dissapointingly recently is rather strange. Or is it that they are not sending their best? o.O

Well, there are rumors that the Chinese team did not competited fairly or something.

Originally Posted by Engineer

Well, there are rumors that the Chinese team did not competited fairly or something.

LOL. Did we expect any less rumor mongering from the sore losers?

Originally Posted by AssassinsMace

Does anyone know if everyone uses the same weapons at these events? That would say a lot since you always hear that Chinese make low quality weapons and they were using them in this event.

Nope. Everyone brings their own.

The Chinese police sniper used the Domestic gun and scored 956 points, while the Chinese military snipers with the M700 got a 907.

Originally Posted by Engineer

Well, there are rumors that the Chinese team did not competited fairly or something.

Non credible, I assume.

How can you cheat in a sniper competition anyway, if the judges are not on your side? Bribe them?

Originally Posted by Bltizo

Non credible, I assume.

How can you cheat in a sniper competition anyway, if the judges are not on your side? Bribe them?

They used under aged contestants.

Originally Posted by Bltizo

Non credible, I assume.

How can you cheat in a sniper competition anyway, if the judges are not on your side? Bribe them?

Said rumor claimed the judges were on Chinese side. Like I've said, it's a rumor, but I would still like to find out more information about this particular contest.