shoulder fired anti-tank weapons

[Mao23]

he guys, just asking but does china use any shoulder fired anti armor weapons. i can't seem to find any, only anti-tank guns or tank destroyers. if you guys could fill me in on this topic.

[BrotherofSnake]

The Chinese developed the type 69 rocket propelled grenade in the 60's. It's basically a Chinese copy of the Russian RPG-7. I believe it's still in service with the PLA

[ahho]

he guys, just asking but does china use any shoulder fired anti armor weapons. i can't seem to find any, only anti-tank guns or tank destroyers. if you guys could fill me in on this topic.
It is under the small arms tab which is in the ground forces. From there you will find 4 type of light AT missiles.

Currently PLA doesn't have any Wired Guided Shoulder Launched AT missile like the ERYX that France and Canada operates, all the guided AT missile currently need to mounted on tripods or on vehicles

Not wanting to hyjack this, but does China have any plan to develop such system like the eryx??

[Mao23]

dun you guys think that china should make something that has a wired guidence system or a ERYX. what will happen if chinese infantry come against tanks and they only have their RPG's which are inferior. won't they need something that has greater accuracy and is less risky for the user? the RPG is good but i think we need something better to knock out armor.

[crazyinsane105]

This weapon system seems somewhat more promising:

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/pf89.asp

It seems pretty cheap to make and it can pack a bigger punch than the Type 69.

[vincelee]

there is also the PF-89B, which uses a tandem warhead with the original launching cannister.

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[rommel]

To be honest, I somehow dislike the Eryx because it's wire-guided. I think that developping a fire-and-forget AT weapon is better (I'm thinking of the US Javelin that's IR guided). You shoot and you hide, you don't have to wait for a hit before hiding. We cannot forget about combat surviveness of a advance system. A soldier with a Javelin will survive longer than a Eryx

[ahho]

To be honest, I somehow dislike the Eryx because it's wire-guided. I think that developping a fire-and-forget AT weapon is better (I'm thinking of the US Javelin that's IR guided). You shoot and you hide, you don't have to wait for a hit before hiding. We cannot forget about combat surviveness of a advance system. A soldier with a Javelin will survive longer than a Eryx
i have a question, Javelin must mount on a tripod to fire right??
In theory is it possible to modified the eryx guidance system to fire and forget??

[vincelee]

Javelin is man portable. I think the strength of the system is in its top attack mode, since the payload itself isn't very heavy.


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[MIGleader]

heres a geat database:
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/small_arms/default.asp

not alot of info is out right now though.

vehicle mounted:
http://www.sinodefence.com/army/antitank/default.asp

http://www.sinodefence.com/missile/tactical/default.asp
the missles they use. not bad.

vince, what are you doing? food is supposed to fill your stomach, not your posts!

[MadMax]

if china is looking to get a shoulder fired ATGM somthing simaler to the Israeli spike system would be an exelent choice. the short and medium range models are heat seeking fire and forget heres an article on it
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/gill/

[Su-27 Pilot]

The Chinese developed the type 69 rocket propelled grenade in the 60's. It's basically a Chinese copy of the Russian RPG-7. I believe it's still in service with the PLA
hmmm, i saw a PLA firing an AT-4 looking AT weapon. Any info on that ?

[ahho]

hmmm, i saw a PLA firing an AT-4 looking AT weapon. Any info on that ?

go to migleaders post and click on the first link, there will be 4 selection for RPG and type 89 will be the one.

about that Isreal system, that is one scary beast man, fire and forget ready to launch within 30 seconds and great distance. That is one scary beast.


Just wonderig, what kind of role do dump fire AT rockets have???? is is usually for urban encounters with light armours and tanks??

[sumdud]

I am not very sure on the type 89/B.
It is compact, but that's the only good thing I see about it.
(Then again, size is a big size in the army, eh.)
It's cheap, not adaptable, short range. (I like the SHIPON with its 800mm attack and 600m range, but it fires only two kinds of rounds.)
But now I will stick to the RPG-7.

A system like the SPIKE is very nice for the ground troops.
But the cloest thing to it that China has is the HJ-73B. (Is the HJ-73C available for the infantry?)

[darth sidious]

think it might be the HJ-8 they partialy resemles the sapper and the taiwanese army is also equpited with a copy of the AT-4